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[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(lordvader129 @ Dec 25 2004, 05:20 AM)

yeah, its new

but we dont know how many of the production lines are using them, so you might still get teh new phillips and samsung drives in new xbox's for a while to come yet

[halofreak007]

sigh another scheme that ms is using to make for profit  

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(halofreak007 @ Dec 27 2004, 02:21 PM)

sigh another scheme that ms is using to make for profit 

tru. but i supose you have to look at it from the point of view that ms is a business. of course they want to do what they can to make a dollar.

[itsmee129]

does it play all cds and dvds like the samsung?

[rh387]

QUOTE(itsmee129 @ Dec 27 2004, 05:34 AM)

does it play all cds and dvds like the samsung?

doesnt anyone read the thread before posting?

[Proctologist]

lmao, I think it's safe to say that most people on this forum can't get mad at MS for saving a buck or two per drive when a certain few members here get a "deal" on their games. Not to point any fingers though. The scene as a whole is very respectable, but just those few...  

[Elevators]

You joking me with this profit bullsh   ? These bastards are racking fat wads off of Live, Games, Controlers (S: Blue, Black and Green), AV Packs, DVD Packs, as well as the most huge loyal base of money tossing customers out of any console. As for modding, they don't give nearly as big a crap as they front. Modders, no matter what, feed money into Xbox the same as anyone else, and are, like the others, only setting them selves up for years of loyality like a damn church. Thats more valuable than anything else, the console just an after thought sucka, to get you addicted to the greater MS product base.

[reidtheweed01]

QUOTE(Cthulhu32 @ Dec 22 2004, 03:13 AM)

How are you guys modding these systems?  Not only did this 10-05-2004 xbox have a hitachi DVD-rom, the motherboard has been completely redesigned.
I think these things qualify as xbox 1.7 motherboards, because they are completely incompatible w/ the lpc rebuild kit, and I do not have the experience to track down the d0 point myself.  I took pictures of my bro's motherboard, if you want hi-res pics PM or email me, otherwise here's the pictures I posted on photobucket that are limited to 250kb.  It's cool to find something new sometimes, but this time I really need directions on where the heck to solder the d0 point and lpc rebuild points since my bro is going back to japan in 2 weeks.
Xbox 1.7 Pictures
easy identification of the new boxs, the feet now have grooves on them, and are made of a different, shiny material.  Torx screws are still silver like the 1.6b's
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/cthulhu32/xbox_17/xbox1_7_feet.jpg)

www.uploadimages.net , try that its the best host ive ever seen

QUOTE(CUxtopher @ Dec 18 2004, 07:45 AM)

i believe i was first ti find it!!!

well i sent x-s this info with pics last week when i opened up a new box, i guess they didnt feel the need to post it, also posted it on www.notworksafe.com

the drive sucks, has errors reading the free ncaa2005/topspin disc, put the disck in my phillips drive and everything is fine

cheap! ms!!

umm ive never had that problem with that and i played that combo disk for about 2 hours on the new drive and nothing happend, and i havnt had any other problems with any other games that ive played on it either, i think you just fucked up your disk or something.

This post has been edited by reidtheweed01: Dec 27 2004, 08:02 AM

[Australian Rat]

Getting back on topic... anyone had any luck getting some firmware for the new drive, and possibly flashing it to a PC DVD drive

616s are too hard to get and really expensive.  A cheaper drive would be great!

[freaky_00]

What makes you feel that LG is another Thomson? In my opinion the Thomsons are one of the best because of compatibility to all DVD-Media! Only its drive speed of 2x is killing me (I don't know if that is true, but found it on a website!!!)

http://www.xbox-linu...D_Burning_HOWTO

Samsung is way faster with 5x but fails DVD+R (in my opinion superior media). If you got the RIGHT dvdwriter you can use BITSETTING to get +R or +RW working on every Samsung!!! The Philips Rev. 2 seems to be nice too but I don't have any clue about its speed.

I would love to get my hands on this drive. LG makes one of the best optical drives so I can not understand how people can talk about it as an inferior drive!!! The only thing that sucks is it isn't working with CD-Rs and DVD+RWs!!!

[catalinnc]

"Samsung is way faster with 5x but fails DVD+R (in my opinion superior media). If you got the RIGHT dvdwriter you can use BITSETTING to get +R or +RW working on every Samsung!!!"

What is "RIGHT dvdwriter" and what is "BITSETTING"?

Can you be more specific?

[freaky_00]

LG GSA-4163B for example is a good dvdwriter.

DVD-R : 2x, 4x CLV, 8x ZCLV, 16x PCAV
DVD-RW : 1x, 2x, 4x, 6x CLV
DVD-RAM : 2x, 3x ZCLV, 3x – 5x PCAV (Ver. 2.1)
DVD+R : 2.4x, 4x CLV, 8x, 12x, 16x ZCLV
DVD+R Double Layer : 2.4x, 4x CLV
DVD+RW : 2.4x, 4x CLV, 8x ZCLV
CD-R : 4x, 8x CLV, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x ZCLV
CD-RW : 4x, 8x, 10x CLV, 16x CLV, 24x ZCLV

A DVD-Player or dvd drive first tries to get information about what kind of media is in the drive in order to chose the correct laser. Some players and drives can not understand what "DVD+R", "DVD+RW" or even "DVD+DL" are. Bitsetting is a special feature which makes the dvdwriter set a flag so the media type WILL BE DVD-ROM to achieve better compatibility. With bitsetting burned DVD+ Media runs perfectly on Samsung drives!!!

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Article.asp?mid=0&sid=2&aid=42
http://www.videohelp.com/glossary?B#BitSetting


This post has been edited by freaky_00: Dec 27 2004, 03:24 PM

[rh387]

QUOTE(freaky_00 @ Dec 27 2004, 01:53 PM)

Thomsons are one of the best because of compatibility to all DVD-Media!

untrue.  i have had media that wouldnt work.

[Betaz]

QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Dec 24 2004, 11:47 AM)

theyre got the best reputation, but i think the new phillips has one over em.

time will tell though. lets wait and see what can be done with these lg drives first

Yeah, I would definatly have to agree there. I have the new Phillips drive in my 1.6 Xbox that I got in early November (Halo 2 ) and it plays almost every media I put in it. I have found VERY few types of CD-Rs that it will not play. I haven't tested the other media as extensively since CD-R is usually the one that doesn't work. I know some of my extremely old CD-Rs didn't work (old dark blue bottoms), but I'd say about 90% of the CD-Rs I had worked in it. Great drive, couldn't be happier with it... unless it was quiet haha.

[warbeast]

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couldn't be happier with it... unless it was quiet haha.

i've had a v1.6 to mod for a friend that had a new philips drive and at the time i knew nothing about the new philips drive so i thought it was just the same as any other philips apart from the noise that made me think it was almost broken

anyway i spent atleast a hour looking at it untill i read that the noise is normal