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[UberDeev]

I bought a probe from Divineo a while back because I wasn't happy with my homemade one. They sent it in a plain unpadded envelope, so of course the pin was broken when it arrived. That $8.50 shipping charge isn't enough to pay for decent packaging, apparently. And of course, if you want it replaced, you have to pay to ship it back to them. I didn't bother.

Bitching aside, the pins on this one don't look any sturdier, so if anyone's interested in getting one, you might want to stay away from Divineo.

[XOR101]

QUOTE(UberDeev @ Feb 4 2010, 04:12 PM)

I bought a probe from Divineo a while back because I wasn't happy with my homemade one. They sent it in a plain unpadded envelope, so of course the pin was broken when it arrived. That $8.50 shipping charge isn't enough to pay for decent packaging, apparently. And of course, if you want it replaced, you have to pay to ship it back to them. I didn't bother.

Bitching aside, the pins on this one don't look any sturdier, so if anyone's interested in getting one, you might want to stay away from Divineo.

Yeah divineo fucking sucks.

They send me incomplete second hand controller parts and don't want to replace.  

[BoNg420]

QUOTE(UberDeev @ Feb 4 2010, 10:12 AM)

I bought a probe from Divineo a while back because I wasn't happy with my homemade one. They sent it in a plain unpadded envelope, so of course the pin was broken when it arrived. That $8.50 shipping charge isn't enough to pay for decent packaging, apparently. And of course, if you want it replaced, you have to pay to ship it back to them. I didn't bother.

Bitching aside, the pins on this one don't look any sturdier, so if anyone's interested in getting one, you might want to stay away from Divineo.

QUOTE(XOR101 @ Feb 4 2010, 10:36 AM)

Yeah divineo fucking sucks.

They send me incomplete second hand controller parts and don't want to replace.  

File paypal claims or chargebacks next time

[dreday78]

From Ubergeek at Xecuter:

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Originally Posted by Bong420 View Post
Ubergeek or any other xecuter staff

Can you clear this up for people as you are just pissing off people and will have potentially pissed off customers.

1. Does this require traces to be cut.
2. If you have to cut traces, you are gonna tell people to use silver conductive glue/paint or whatever that stuff is.
3. Is this as simple as just putting the 2 probe pins in a hole? No trace cutting? No trace repairs. Please clear this up for your customers.

Please be straight forward with us. Does it require trace cutting and patching up the cuts?

Im pretty sure you just worded it that way to get more preorders. Why would you even need the probe v1 function of doing 7 series dvd drives if you can have a simple solderless and trace repair free method.

All you are causing is more people to bash your products and hate your company if you aren't straight forward with your announcements and such.
1. Yes there are still cuts of course - we never said there wasn't. We said no Rebuild PCB and No Soldering. 100% Correct. Even a bunch of guys in this thread had enough of a clue to know that much from how it all works.
2. We are supplying a specially commissioned conductive glue to repair the small cuts that works brilliantly and is super simple and easy to use. We have also made sure there is enough to do about 10 Drives . We will also be supplying these conductive glue packets as a separate product for installers who don't want to solder. Just look online - prices are upto $20 for a small amount. I've done a deal with the company that invented the stuff in the USA. You'll be paying $2.95 which will be enough for another 10 Xbox's.
3. What pre-orders ? We aren't taking pre-orders. The one company who has been advertised has a stock notification system in place - that's it. No Pre Orders have been authorized in any way shape or form - you think too much maybe ?
4. The 7 series solution is there so you can grab the key without making any cuts. That's actually a good thing btw lol

The announcement was straight forward - it explains exactly what the product is - No soldering. We never said there are no cuts. Sure its a little hype and marketing - this is a business, but the info is 100% correct and not misleading in any way shape or form. Anyway who suggests that made the mistake themselves, it's nothing from what we said. Naturally they will now have anger and crazy wild thoughts and the last person they will do that to is themselves for assuming incorrectly so they then direct it at us. That's not adult behavior of course so it's ignored easily.

Why the hell would anyone get "pissed off" lol - they have to be kids they can't be adults in any way shape or form that's impossible - the same kids who were bashing C4E for not releasing his firmwares fast enough - these people are not taken seriously by anyone - certainly not by us. We have been manufacturing for 10 years. We'll be manufacturing for another 10 years. We are still here because we make good products. I still laugh when we get bashed on one hand but that same person gives praise to another brand - when it is us who made that brand in the first place - that's always pretty amusing - it just goes to show how bullshit all this "fanboy" stuff is - we've seen it all before and it matters nothing in the grand scheme of things - its just a lot of trolling and online ego's.

You have 2 choices. Solder the switch or use the Probe 2 with no soldering. That's it - no problem. The Probe 2 works really well - you can be dumping your fw in less than 30 seconds. Patch the traces with the glue - 2 small dabs - dry and you're done - that's it simple. If someone decides to hate our company or bashes this product because they had a brain fart over the fact that we "tricked them" into thinking that there was no cuts or there was some other "scam" then they need to get a serious reality check and maybe get outside once in a while. Seriously. Naturally some troll will bash what I've said here on other forums as that's just how they roll lol  

[DaShiZNiT]

So the Vampire mod was really the "first no solder solution" lol....

Here's a no solder solution, pay an installer, hopefully he can solder.

[dangal]

Everything is clear now!!!!
Thanks for the info

[acemilo]

This is disappointing but not unexpected. Xecuter has some great products by their advertising is deceitful and it always was. I really thought they may have come up with a new method without soldering but that's not the case. Conductive glue is no the same as no solder, you still have to cut traces. The point of finding a no solder solution would be to just flash it without hacking apart the drive. I was hopeful and got let down big.

[gamestuff]

QUOTE(insanity4all @ Feb 4 2010, 12:48 AM)

+1

     I ordered one of those Xecuter switches for testing, about a month later, STILL WAITING!  I'm getting ready to open a PayPal dispute before I lose the option.  

Who'd you order it from? Why not call them?

[KillerFirefly]

I just sent my drive in to a professional modder - I can't be bothered with all these new techniques & equipment everytime a new drive comes out.

Paid £36.50 for flashing iXtreme LT inc. return postage.
Hopefully i'll have the drive back tomorrow

[khull]

received my switch yesterday but would rather use the probe instead. this is turning to be an expensive exercise

[devilstrider]

QUOTE(insanity4all @ Feb 4 2010, 02:48 AM)

+1

     I ordered one of those Xecuter switches for testing, about a month later, STILL WAITING!  I'm getting ready to open a PayPal dispute before I lose the option.  I've already made my own "vampire" or "CK3 Probe V2" following that wonderful German tutorial over a month ago, I was just looking for a lazy way (getting old n shaky) of repairing the traces.  (I personally won't use silver ink, for this type of app!)  I found my solution with Maximus rebuild boards!  

I've been reading nothing but bad things about T-X, and now based on my personal experience they won't be getting a dime from me, ever again.  And neither will JF, when the "free" firmwares don't become free until someone else decrypts them for the public!

Off topic- I'm sure a mod will edit/delete it and/or ban me, especially based on how much this site closed/"covered up" all the threads pertaining to the release of LT.  But does anyone find it funny that the SAME website that was "unofficially" selling LT firmware before it's official release is now the SAME sight for "official" LT installs on the JF twitter page?!!!!!!

Here is some more food for thought...
Team Xecuter and JF: publically supports C4eva and his/their efforts to supply a "free" firmware.  
Team Xecuter Vs. Team Maximus
"Germania   Maximus"
Germania the person who has RUINED both of the last two attempts for new firmwares to be SOLD rather than released for free with optional donations.  Thank you Germania, you appear to be the only real hacker left.  

Hacking for $$,  McDonalds is always hiring!    

Thank you, XEXdev people!  & with my Lite-on 1.6NS I won't ever need one of c4eva/T-X/JF 's firmwares again!  Just the hacked-hacked-Microsoft code for me!  

Now thats some food for thought. Won't be buying Team-X products anymore. Last thing i going from them was a ton of Xecutor 3 XBOX 1 chips.

[BoNg420]

Yea I posted on their site and the one mod said I was bashing their products.  I just wanted to get a straight forward answer for everyone.

All they kept doing is beating around the bush when people asked about it and even admitted it was "clever marketing"

I know a good company would not deceive their customers with their "clever marketing" as they called it.

They just need to look at it this way.  Customers will buy this product thinking it will be a non solder no cutting solution because they don't read the forums.   Customers will get angry about being deceived by xecuter and sure xecuter gets their money today, but if you want to keep customers loyal to your product, you should be upfront and tell them what your product does.

Nowhere in their announcement do they say anything about cutting traces or repairing the traces with the silver conductive glue that they will include with their product.  Obvious is obvious, they wanted to trick people into ordering this thing.  

I have always liked some of the xecuter products, even though they have made a bunch of worthless stuff, I never complained, I just don't buy something I don't need.

[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Feb 5 2010, 05:11 AM)

Yea I posted on their site and the one mod said I was bashing their products.  I just wanted to get a straight forward answer for everyone.

All they kept doing is beating around the bush when people asked about it and even admitted it was "clever marketing"

I know a good company would not deceive their customers with their "clever marketing" as they called it.

They just need to look at it this way.  Customers will buy this product thinking it will be a non solder no cutting solution because they don't read the forums.   Customers will get angry about being deceived by xecuter and sure xecuter gets their money today, but if you want to keep customers loyal to your product, you should be upfront and tell them what your product does.

Nowhere in their announcement do they say anything about cutting traces or repairing the traces with the silver conductive glue that they will include with their product.  Obvious is obvious, they wanted to trick people into ordering this thing.  

I have always liked some of the xecuter products, even though they have made a bunch of worthless stuff, I never complained, I just don't buy something I don't need.

Plus they are sneaking since they don't put any kind of install guide.  I don't like companies that don't put the full facts of their products up front.

[Kloud]

Considering you'd only be making 2 small trace cuts, would conductive glue/paint/ink not be fine to basically fill in the cut if you did it with enough precision?

Could someone more informed and experienced with the new drives provide some input?

[BoNg420]

QUOTE(Kloud @ Feb 5 2010, 06:55 AM)

Considering you'd only be making 2 small trace cuts, would conductive glue/paint/ink not be fine to basically fill in the cut if you did it with enough precision?

Could someone more informed and experienced with the new drives provide some input?

I would be more comfortable using solder, I don't know how easy the conductive glue is to remove if you connect something to the trace that shouldn't be.

If you bridge something with solder, at least you can desolder.  

Also I hear people saying that the conductive glue might not be so reliable.  Someone mentioned that intensafire pcb thing that goes in controllers for rapid fire most problems people have was with using the conductive glue, so putting this on someone elses drive, I wouldn't trust it so much.  I don't want to have my customers sending me something back to fix because the conductive glue failed, Id rather be happy knowing that the solder will be fine.