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[markbradcliffe]

Well, I just did this on a dead E74 machine with secondary error 1022. I followed the instructions - but had the heatsink removed from the GPU only. I only heat gunned the underneath as per the excellent tutorial. Left for 40 mins. Heated up with 350 degress setting for about 3 mins about 1 to 2 inches away from the board, and then gave a final 600 degrees setting for the about another 30 seconds.

I then re-did the XClamp fix, and it is all working. My son is currently testing as his Elite has broken again! having been back from TCR (Total Console Repairs) for about 2 weeks with an E74 error! But not touching my sons Elite as it is insured through game until November this year.

Will let you know how long it lasts. I plan to do a fan mod on it over the extended heatsink for the GPU, an then drill some vent holes in the top of the console. Assuming this console works for a while :-)

So for those of you that don't think it works - your wrong, the key is to just get it hot enough to melt the solder and keep away from capacitors, plastic etc......I didn't use any foil....was just very careful.

Good luck.

[mcalvelloxx]

RRoD after e74....two weeks after.
I did the x-clamp fix and used the heat gun once.

Not sure if I should redo the X-clamp fix or what?

This post has been edited by mcalvelloxx: Jun 2 2009, 03:43 AM

[Kendo2748]

Cannot quite understand why anyone would use a heat gun on a xbox motherboard, the baking method with the fan disconnected works well if done right.

However I believe if you have done the xclamp fix correctly using this guide http://xbox-experts....al.php?n=hybrid from Team Hybrid there is no need to bake or heat up the motherboard as it should boot first time after the fix.

mcalvelloxx - I would redo xclamp fix inaccordance with the guide above

[tapo39]

hi, just got a heat gun for this fix, but its only setting is 550c, is it still possible to do it with this, with less time heating up i.e 1 minute instead of 2-3? Thanks

hi, just got a heat gun, but its 550c only, would i still be able to use it but instead of heating 4 2-3 minutes heat for 1-1.30?

[L14M333]

Hi I'm new to all this but ive fixed a few xbox 360's 3 RROD and one E74 still working today and i have now come across an Elite made in 2007 with the HANA chip what is going on me. i will order a heat gun soon but i understand all i have to do is put layers of foil over everything i don't want to heat and use the heat gun on the bottom for 1 min at 500c and then 2-3 on a high setting, then wait for it to cool and then do the top without the heat sink's on... also i noticed that the HANA chip don't have the soldiered joints on the outside like the ANA one does (in pics) will this still work? and also today i just left it on with E74 for 20 mins then cooled it down and fitted my own small heat sink on the HANA chip that worked for about 6 games on call of duty map pack 2 and then i got the lines again, now ive been talking to a mate for the past hour on the same console after letting it cool but not playing i don't want to do it no more harm so will getting the heat gun do the trick with the HANA chip

Thanks

Liam

[dman25]

Quick question  -  When Applying heat to the bottom is the motherboard face up or face down and Do you apply the heat with the heat sink on or off?   If on should i clean and reapply the artic silver after its working beacuse the paste can only take so much heat?

[L14M333]

QUOTE(dman25 @ Jun 19 2009, 04:30 PM)

and Do you apply the heat with the heat sink on or off?   If on should i clean and reapply the artic silver after its working beacuse the paste can only take so much heat?

For this part i know you have to take the heatsinks off as you can squash the soldier balls and ruin your 360 mobo, and to be on the safe side i would redo the paste. Hope it helps still waiting for my heatgun, if anyone could reply to my post i would be greatful   ,
Thanks

EDIT: oh yeah... i have watched some videos on YouTube and they have it upside down so i think its ok but im not 100% sure also let us know how it went. Thanks. Liam

[slimjim604]

Thanks OP.

Fixed my xbox which had the following symptoms -> e74, freezes after 3-5 minutes of gameplay and glitchy graphics. (ANA chip related probably)

All I did was heat it at the low setting for 1 minute and 2 minutes at the higher setting. always moving, never stationary, about 2-3 inches away from board. I also aluminum foiled everything besides the ram chips/ANA chip and GPU(no heatsink).

I placed my motherboard on four 2 litre bottles(one on each corner) for the entire process... this ensured the board was level and I could access the under side and top side of the board instantly.

I let it cool for 20ish minutes. (didn't move it at all.. didn't want to

my heatgun had a 375 and 540 setting.

[L14M333]

QUOTE(slimjim604 @ Jun 24 2009, 04:41 AM)

Thanks OP.

Fixed my xbox which had the following symptoms -> e74, freezes after 3-5 minutes of gameplay and glitchy graphics. (ANA chip related probably)

All I did was heat it at the low setting for 1 minute and 2 minutes at the higher setting. always moving, never stationary, about 2-3 inches away from board. I also aluminum foiled everything besides the ram chips/ANA chip and GPU(no heatsink).

I placed my motherboard on four 2 litre bottles(one on each corner) for the entire process... this ensured the board was level and I could access the under side and top side of the board instantly.

I let it cool for 20ish minutes. (didn't move it at all.. didn't want to

my heatgun had a 375 and 540 setting.

Hi, ive done what you said... then i boot it up and get 3 Red Lights so i took it apart again and reflowed it, it booted up for about 60 seconds and then i got a static noise and the screen went scrambled (Via HDMI(HANA Chip)) Turned it off then on and i got 3 Red Lights Again... now im stuck... shall i try reflow again or just put it in the bin and use it as spairs and repairs... i would like to get it working as it a HDMI elite so please can anyone help

Thanks

Liam

[ron6399]

QUOTE(Kendo2748 @ Jun 2 2009, 05:16 AM)

Cannot quite understand why anyone would use a heat gun on a xbox motherboard, the baking method with the fan disconnected works well if done right.

However I believe if you have done the xclamp fix correctly using this guide http://xbox-experts.com/e/tutorial.php?n=hybrid from Team Hybrid there is no need to bake or heat up the motherboard as it should boot first time after the fix.

mcalvelloxx - I would redo xclamp fix inaccordance with the guide above

The reason a heat gun is used is because the heat can be directed to desired areas of the board. You can shield certain parts of the board and do specific locations. The heat gun allows for a more precision reflow.
 As a matter of fact someone posted in an earlier thread that they baked the whole board and they have to boot twice to get the console to work. How do you find the problem with this. I heat near the gpu , above and below on the bottom of the board with great results. The gpu is the area which typically gets heated the most causing most of our issues.  Just letting the gpu heat up typically is a temporary fix because it really doesn't do a reflow of the solder , to fix bad solder joints.

[covekotx]

I had the same problem with the E74 *1022 every time after the x-clamp (hybrid) replacement and the baking process. I only had for about 60 min of game play and then glitches on the screen, the box cools... THE FAMOUS E74. After reading all of the comments on this topic I decided to give it a try and bought myself a heat gun, aluminum foiled the unnecessary areas for the process, adjusted 2 chairs and heated the bottom of the board gradually for 2 min, and the top side for about 30 sec on 240C. I did the bottom side for about 90 seconds on 240C and 30 sec at 550C at a distance of 2 inches from the board. After 6 days of extensive gaming NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER. Thanx to everyone for contributing a solution for this issue. Anyone can do this at the cost of a heat gun (the cheapest sort only 20euro), all it takes is determination, preparation and patience  

Thanx jimwross
and everyone

[GMSkel]

I bought an Xbox 360 Falcon mobo on ebay about 2 months ago, which worked great, and I purchased a Talismoon Whisper fan from ebay to install on the mobo.
About a month ago, my brother was playing and he started to get graphical glitches. And he got the e74 error message. I noticed that the GPU side of the Talismoon stopped working for some reason. It turned out to be a wiring issue, so I rewired the fan and had it working again.

Ever since then, my 360 has been getting the e74 error.

I've tested the 360, and I can play it for hours at a time, but once I turn it off and then turn it on again I get the e74 error, every time. I've tried the baking trick, which worked. Played for a couple hours, turned it off. Turned on again, and got the same result: e74. I've done the baking trick 3 or 4 times now.

Yesterday I got the e74. Troubleshooted the 360 by turning it off and on to see if it would go away, but it wouldn't. So I opened it up, un-tightened the screws on the gpu heat sink giving me enough space to lift the heat sink a little bit, and re tightened it without doing the baking trick. And it worked for awhile, then I turned it off, and turned it on to see e74 on my screen.

Then I took off the heatsink and cleaned it up, cleaned up the GPU, re-applied arctic silver, and did the baking trick. It worked for awhile.  Turned off.. turned it on.. e74.

I inspected the underside of the mobo and noticed that there were some solder points inbetween the GPU and ANA which had holes in them.. I'm not sure if this is the issue for my e74, but I'm going to re solder these points and see what happens.

This e74 crap is pissing me off.

This post has been edited by GMSkel: Today, 06:42 AM

[leo5150]

http://reball360.com/default.aspx guys this guy actualy does a proper reflow, the old solder is replaced with new solder, he had my 360 gpu and cpu sitting on a table in front of me so i can confirm he is doin what it says on his site  

[GMSkel]

QUOTE(GMSkel @ Jul 4 2009, 01:41 AM)

I bought an Xbox 360 Falcon mobo on ebay about 2 months ago, which worked great, and I purchased a Talismoon Whisper fan from ebay to install on the mobo.
About a month ago, my brother was playing and he started to get graphical glitches. And he got the e74 error message. I noticed that the GPU side of the Talismoon stopped working for some reason. It turned out to be a wiring issue, so I rewired the fan and had it working again.

Ever since then, my 360 has been getting the e74 error.

I've tested the 360, and I can play it for hours at a time, but once I turn it off and then turn it on again I get the e74 error, every time. I've tried the baking trick, which worked. Played for a couple hours, turned it off. Turned on again, and got the same result: e74. I've done the baking trick 3 or 4 times now.

Yesterday I got the e74. Troubleshooted the 360 by turning it off and on to see if it would go away, but it wouldn't. So I opened it up, un-tightened the screws on the gpu heat sink giving me enough space to lift the heat sink a little bit, and re tightened it without doing the baking trick. And it worked for awhile, then I turned it off, and turned it on to see e74 on my screen.

Then I took off the heatsink and cleaned it up, cleaned up the GPU, re-applied arctic silver, and did the baking trick. It worked for awhile.  Turned off.. turned it on.. e74.

I inspected the underside of the mobo and noticed that there were some solder points inbetween the GPU and ANA which had holes in them.. I'm not sure if this is the issue for my e74, but I'm going to re solder these points and see what happens.

This e74 crap is pissing me off.

Well, I resoldered the points that had tiny holes. I also noticed some holes in the points coming from the AV/HDMI port, and resoldered those points to fill the gaps. I also made sure that the mobo wasn't being warped by the screws that hold it down (i read somewhere on xbox-scene that warping was a cause for the red ring of death)

I tested my 360 by turning it on and off multiple times, and had no e74 error. I played Halo Wars for about 25 minutes. Tuned it off, and then on again, no e74. I'm going to do some more testing and play for a couple hours, and hopefully I get no e74.

[kirca]

QUOTE(GMSkel @ Jul 6 2009, 05:12 AM)

Well, I resoldered the points that had tiny holes. I also noticed some holes in the points coming from the AV/HDMI port, and resoldered those points to fill the gaps. I also made sure that the mobo wasn't being warped by the screws that hold it down (i read somewhere on xbox-scene that warping was a cause for the red ring of death)

I tested my 360 by turning it on and off multiple times, and had no e74 error. I played Halo Wars for about 25 minutes. Tuned it off, and then on again, no e74. I'm going to do some more testing and play for a couple hours, and hopefully I get no e74.

Can you tell me if holes are clearly visible with naked eye. And what did you use for resoldering  (soldering iron, heatgun,?).
Thx