Topic: Tutorial: Fix E74 / No Video Errors (Read 3039 times)

hazed69 · « **Reply #345 on:** April 23, 2009, 09:12:00 AM »

ive done the heat gun on one xbox lasted me a week do i redo the bottom
or should i do the top
plus this time ill time my self to see how long im using the heat gun
on it

bigheadnick · « **Reply #346 on:** April 24, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »

QUOTE(jimwross @ Apr 8 2008, 11:25 AM)

You'd have to figure out how to attach it too... but I don't think its the ANA chip thats really getting to hot, ow i'm fairly certain its from the GPU getting really hot and melting the connection between the two...

Ive now fixed a bunch of consoles with the 3 reds and only attempted 2 that had one red.I noticed with the 1red(e74) that they were the newer consoles with the heavier heatsinks on the cpu and the added mini heatsink(located behind the rf-module) connected to the gpu's primary heatsink.Is this a consistent issue with the newer consoles having this heatsink design?Im not saying its due to the heatsinks rather trying to find out if e74 is isolated to these consoles.Whats different between the scaler chips on the older consoles as compared to these ones? I would venture that they are different models that run hotter than the old ones and thus, need they're own heatsinks.I want to test this theory by cutting down a piece of a gpu's heatsink from a spare console but am not sure if it can be mounted properly.Not one of the e74 fixes I have seen are permanent.None of them work for more than a few weeks.I think this idea could fix it permanently. Any ideas on properly mounting a heatsink to this area without drilling a hole through something important?

nsta · « **Reply #347 on:** April 25, 2009, 02:26:00 AM »

What method have you used to fix all your 3 red ring issues?....do you have to heatgun to fix 3 red rings?...or is it only with E74 where i should be using the heatgun method?

Thanks

P.s i bought a heatgun today with a concentrator on it and two settings low and hi 300/500c

Hopefully i never burn a board again!

bigheadnick · « **Reply #348 on:** April 25, 2009, 01:31:00 PM »

QUOTE(nsta @ Apr 25 2009, 02:18 AM)

What method have you used to fix all your 3 red ring issues?....do you have to heatgun to fix 3 red rings?...or is it only with E74 where i should be using the heatgun method?

Thanks

P.s i bought a heatgun today with a concentrator on it and two settings low and hi 300/500c

Hopefully i never burn a board again!

Ive never felt the need to use a heat gun to fix the 3 reds, simply lay the fan over the disc drive and the cpu's heatsink so that the gpu bakes while the cpu is still being cooled by the fan.Do this for 15 mins or till u see 2 red lights whichever comes first.Let the thing cool down for 20-30mins and thats it.I still need some input on my previous post though

nsta · « **Reply #349 on:** April 25, 2009, 02:39:00 PM »

Thanks - how many 3 red rings have you fixed with this method? - also, i know that their are heatsinks you can purchase yourself for the ANA chips....so it maybe worthwhile to invest on....others are running thermal compound followed by a 1mm washer to sort the heat issue on them...as with the memory chips.

bigheadnick · « **Reply #350 on:** April 25, 2009, 10:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(nsta @ Apr 25 2009, 03:31 PM)

Thanks - how many 3 red rings have you fixed with this method? - also, i know that their are heatsinks you can purchase yourself for the ANA chips....so it maybe worthwhile to invest on....others are running thermal compound followed by a 1mm washer to sort the heat issue on them...as with the memory chips.

Ive fixed 25 or so 3reds and have only got 1 call back, all i had to do was bake the gpu a little longer.I hope u are aware that u must replace the x-clamps with machine screws and washers, as well as replace the old thermal paste with arctic silver or some other high grade paste before baking the gpu. There are several tuts on this site alone explaining the process.As far as the ana/scaler chip,I researched it a little and realized its a new feature of the opus motherboard.My guess is they replaced the 3red error with the one red.Loli think i'd rather have the 3 red cause i know exactly how to fix it permanently.Im gonna look into a heat sink for the ana chip and if this cures the e74 i will post a tutorial.

nsta · « **Reply #351 on:** April 26, 2009, 02:04:00 AM »

Thanks for advising mate - yeah ive always done the correct x-clamp....but the last E74 i had done, there was no way to fix it other than heatgun the chipset....after i had done that, all was working perfect!!!

Anyway, i fixed anther one today by heatgunning, and then x-clamp baking method....all good:)....heatgunning is scary every time i do it though....as i have already blown 2 boards this way....im getting used to it now though...i just purchased a concentrator peice for my heatgun, which i think helps this, as well as isolating a bit better!

Thanks

nsta · « **Reply #352 on:** April 27, 2009, 12:51:00 AM »

Hey guys, is it safe to use Blu-Tak on the 360 board?.....what i have been doing recently, is blutakking underneath the capacitors on the underside of the board, before i heatgun the areas in this thread.....ive never had any problems since ive started doing this....what i think use to happen, is i use to heatgun the area, and the heat use to spread unevenly and get to the capacitors and destroy them!....now with the blu-tak i seem to not be exposing such a risk, as the heat will have to get past the blutak 1st....

....is 30secs on 300c, and then a minute on 500c, then 30secs back on 300c a good plan of attack for the back side of the board?? - And how fast are your heatgun movements in circles...i always think im not realy reflowing anything while i move the gun fast and in circular motion!!!

darealmastad · « **Reply #353 on:** April 28, 2009, 01:29:00 PM »

Ive only had to fix 2 consoles, mine with the 3 rrod and my friends with the 1 rrod e74. With my box I have done the overheat without fan trick twice plus replaced the x clamps and so far it has been running for 4-5 months, the first time it lasted about 2 months. I'm currently trying the heat gun method for the e74 and I'll post information when I get done with that fix.

Edit*
Also I was wondering if the overheat resets the errors codes because when I was attempting the fix the e74 yesterday I turned it on and to my surprise it instantly overheated. When I turned it back on it was running the logo screen but a couple seconds later it overheat again. I found out it wasn't contacting with the heatsink so it made me think that the overheat reset the error. I didn't have the e74 code anymore but it was overheating.

darealmastad · « **Reply #354 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:37:00 PM »

Update, forget the edit in the previous message, I wasnt aware we could only edit the message once. After trying this method, I got it working again so Thanks to the replies. I have it running without any washers and was wondering if this is a bad idea. I played a game on it for about a half hour without any problems.

strikey · « **Reply #355 on:** April 30, 2009, 12:28:00 PM »

Nice This method worked on my Xbox

DJKrafty03 · « **Reply #356 on:** April 30, 2009, 03:41:00 PM »

I've used this on a few 360's one had a network issue afterwards, so I'm pretty sure I cooked it too long. I just ran in to another 360 that wouldn't do anything when booting, no red rings, no green, no video.

I tried the X-Clamp first and it wouldn't even heat up after 15 minutes of being on. So I decided to try this, and viola, works perfect!

I finished the process after first heatgunning it and it's fine. I played for 3 hours last night and it's working great, no network errors no video errors. Perfect fix for the strangest of issues.

bozza69 · « **Reply #357 on:** May 02, 2009, 01:18:00 AM »

this method worked on my xbox thanks heaps, when i was doing the heatgunning, i only did the underside of the board (where the x-clamp used to be (GPU)) i thought i was very sparing with the heat as to be safer. no crackling no visual capacitors moving, i was expecting that i would need to heat it more.......

worked a treat! thanks heaps

oh and i also did it with the gpu heatsink removed.

Doppelganger810 · « **Reply #358 on:** May 03, 2009, 05:15:00 AM »

I've been reviving my dead Xenon for 2 years now with it ultimately failing after a week or so tops. Initially it had the 3RLoD which I remedied with the X-Clamp fix.

I enabled a lasting fix with the use of a shim, and no longer get the red lights, but now possibly with the downward pressure of using the shim (It's 1mm thick and I use 2 metal washers under the heatsink) I have been getting no video.
I bought a heatgun and put it on medium setting just above 300 degrees, and that sorted it out for a week. Now it has returned and I fixed it again with another blast from the heatgun turning it up to about 400 degrees for about 2 minutes or so. Hopefully this will last but I suspect that it will return due to the board being bent with the pressure of the shim.

If I don't use a shim, then the 360 freezes after about 5-10 minutes into a graphically-intensive game. So it's catch-22 for me. Is there anything I can attach to the underside of the board to counteract the flexing caused by the shim?

mcalvelloxx · « **Reply #359 on:** May 16, 2009, 06:24:00 PM »

Well sh**, this worked!
After getting e74 three times, I can finally see the dashboard.

I still don't trust this 360 though.
I guess I will leave running for a week

Gracias for the tutorial!

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