Topic: "to Play This Disc, Blaa Blaa Blaa" (Read 123 times)

Boobers · « **on:** January 15, 2008, 08:50:00 AM »

I just resurrected a 360 from the 3RROD issue and now I have a DVD issue.

I get the multi-language error screen that says, "TO PLAY THIS DISC, PUT IT IN AN XBOX 360 CONSOLE" every time I put in a disc.

I tried to do an XBOX Scene search, but I guess the search feature is on the fritz... A GOOGLE search pointed to posts where the solution is to send it back to MS.

Is there any fix for this problem, other than a straight DVD replacement?

Thanx

B

slimgrip · « **Reply #1 on:** January 15, 2008, 08:56:00 AM »

Sounds like the key is wrong. Do you know the history of this 360?

If you bought it maybe someone made it 3red light on purpose to sell as a 3RLOD machine knowing the drive had no key.

Or maybe your backups arent stealthed & it has ixtreme FW

Boobers · « **Reply #2 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:10:00 AM »

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Jan 15 2008, 11:32 AM)

Sounds like the key is wrong. Do you know the history of this 360?

If you bought it maybe someone made it 3red light on purpose to sell as a 3RLOD machine knowing the drive had no key.

Or maybe your backups arent stealthed & it has ixtreme FW

Yea, I am new to the 360, so I am not sure what the "key" is.

It sounds like you are saying that someone tried to modify the DVD drive and messed it up..

Is there any way to confirm this??

I have a few 360s.. I am pulling all the DVD drives and putting them in the one I just fixed and see if I can get a good DVD drive.

Although, it just occurred to me. Are the DVD drives "mated" to the 360 MB?? Much as the XBOX 1 HDs are "mated" to the XBOX MB???

Thanx for the reply...

B

EDIT: Sorry, I misread your post. No, I don't know the history of this particular 360. It was given to me by a guy who is hoping I could fix it for him.

Chancer · « **Reply #3 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:22:00 AM »

You can't just stick the drives in a different machine . They will not work.

Boobers · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:26:00 AM »

QUOTE(Chancer @ Jan 15 2008, 11:58 AM)

You can't just stick the drives in a different machine . They will not work.

I was afraid of that..

So if I am looking at a bad flash of a DVD drive, is there any way to bring it back to STOCK?

Thanx

B

slimgrip · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:31:00 AM »

If the original key of the DVD drive is lost then the 360 is only fit for parts.

Boobers · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:39:00 AM »

QUOTE(slimgrip @ Jan 15 2008, 12:07 PM)

If the original key of the DVD drive is lost then the 360 is only fit for parts.

Damn... That just sucks purple panther piss!

B

Boobers · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2008, 10:25:00 AM »

After doing a bunch of reading I think I am starting to grasp the situation with regards to the DVD Key..

Given this, it occurred to me.

If this 360 is the victim of a bad or old/useless flash, isn't it possible that the person who did the flash inserted the proper key when he/she did the flash??

And, assuming this is true, shouldn't I be able to use the existing methods outlined in the tuts to read the key from the Drive FW, assuming it's readable??

I just want to confirm I am on the right track.

Thanx

B

slimgrip · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2008, 10:32:00 AM »

Do you get the "to play this disc etc" message when u insert an original or does it just do it on backups?
This message can appear if the firmware is ixtreme & the backup isnt fully stealth patched.

If it does it with originals then the key is wrong & unless you can get that key from whoever flashed it your screwed.
If the key on the drive now is wrong there is no point extracting it.

At this moment in time there is NO WAY to get the key from the 360 mobo

Boobers · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2008, 10:45:00 AM »

It just gets worser and worser..

Yea, I get the error with commercial games. At first I thought it might be a bad disk, so I got a different game and the same thing happened..

So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that the error is caused by a bad/wrong DVD Key so extracting it would be pointless.. Is that accurate??

Would the error message "UNPLAYABLE DISC" also be caused by a bad/wrong DVD Key??

Thanx for the replies. Much appreciated..

B

RDC · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2008, 12:41:00 PM »

If the drive were the victim of a bad flash (not an improper one, a bad one) it most likely wouldn't work at all, it would be 'bricked'.

If the key is missing or wrong it's not going to play any game discs at all, but it will still play CDs and DVD movies just fine.

If it was flashed by someone that didn't have a clue what they were doing then the key could possibly be gone for good, say they just straight flashed a hacked FW to the drive without dumping the drives FW first and making a backup, in that case the key is gone, forever. You'd have to dump the drives FW and see if there was a key there to even start troubleshooting that aspect of it, and even if a key is there that's still no guarantee it's the right one and there's no way to cross reference it against anything on the 360 to tell.

If the thing plays DVD movies fine it could even be the laser as well, they can be picky to a point of reading DVDs but not wanting to touch a game disc. If ya have a known good drive there swap lasers between them and see what results ya get, the Samsung and Hitachi use the same one, so the drive doesn't have to be the same model/version at all to try that out.

Boobers · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2008, 02:03:00 PM »

Thanx for the reply..

Yea, it seems to read DVDs just fine. It also boots up into the BLADE dashboard just fine when there is not a disk in the drive..

It seems to be pointing more and more to a DVD Key issue..

I am assuming (since no one has mentioned it) that there isn't anything like an "eeprom reader" that will allow the key to be taken from the MB, al'a XBOX 1??

Well, since I am going to have to learn it anyways, can you point me to some good rookie tuts that show how to access the FW from the DVD drive?

Thanx again..

B

GamestationOH · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2008, 07:01:00 PM »

I have fixed 360's that have displayed this problem by replacing the laser. I don't know why this problem surfaces, but I have seen it happened intermittently, the 360 will read many games then display this problem out of the blue.

RDC · « **Reply #13 on:** January 15, 2008, 11:11:00 PM »

It has already been mentioned that there is no way to get the key of the motherboard, slimgrip told ya. Technically there is a way to get it from the motherboard, but ONLY IF you already have a hacked working drive with the key on it, so it's a catch-22, you have to already have the key on the drive to get it from the motherboard, which is pretty pointless.

All of the drive FW tutorials are in the pinned sections of 360 Newbie Chat and DVD-ROM Technical, read the tutorial by Textbook as it covers most everything you'll need to know.

Boobers · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2008, 05:25:00 AM »

Awesome! Thanx

Looks like I got a lot of reading to do today..

Thanx to all for the replies..

B

EDIT: I am reading thru the TEXTBOOK pdf right now and I have come to a spot that confuses me.

At the part where it explains about getting the DVD into MODE-B, it says:

Disconnect all other drives in your PC. You should disconnect all hard drives and DVD drives so they do not get accidentally flashed with the hacked firmware. Disabling these devices in your BIOS may not work, so physically unplugging them is the best solution.

But then, when explaing the MODE-B procedure, it implies that you must boot from the computer's CD.

I know with my VIA chipset, it usually works best if I dont turn on the 360 until just after the Slax disc started to load..

Just want to clarify this. I do have to leave one CD drive connected to my PC in order to boot up the SLAX disk.

Thanx again..

B

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