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[jager673]

I have done the heat gun method a few times, x-clamp mod on both GPU and CPU, and loosened and tightened the screws, and nothing seems to be working. It still gives me the 0020 error code. It has also been out of the case for the past month and a half..  I had the error code 0110 before this error which i guess i fixed?? I'm guessing its the mobo thats flexing? How would i un-flex it even tho i loosened the screws a bunch of times and tested it everytime i loosened one? If anyone could give me any kind of help here that would be really awesome.

Thanks alot!

[jager673]

can anyone help??

[jager673]

anyone please??

[blahdah]

i have damaged more motheboard with the gun thn i actually fixed and second of all soon uget frustrated with the motherboard just put it down go and rest and come back l8r casue u mostly brake somethink

ok 0020 as far as i know usually happens thn yr GPU is 2 tight try and just rest the heatsink on the gpu and see wht happens if it gives antoher error code thn u know the gpu was pulled down 2 tight
error 0110 u can try some pennison the 4 ram modules under the board do one at a time and see wht happens

[brandogg]

You should have never tried the heat gun. 0020 is usually caused by having the GPU heatsink too tight (the on on the left). I would first, put the heat gun away, seconds completely remove the heat sinks, clean them and the die(s) on the chips, reapply your AS5, then return the heat sinks, tightening them in an X pattern, just like you would tighten the lug nuts on your car if you replaced the tire/wheel. Tighten them hand tight, then give a little turn with your wrench/screwdriver, just a little bit.

[flippy10]

A lot of people tend to heat gun their motherboard with the heat sinks super tight, this is just asking for you to permanently damage your motherboard/GPU and bridge some connections. If you use the heat gun fix, and I say fix and not "trick" because we all know what "trick" means.

First off, when you heat gunned the motherboard were your heat sinks attached or not attached?
If they we're attached, chances are you've bridged a good amount of connections or less likely, killed your GPU.

I'd follow Brandogg's advice, X tightening formation, hand tight and then a little further. If you still continue to get the 0020, Attempt a quick start with the heat sinks just resting on the dies of the GPU. Make sure there still thermal paste, so that you just don't fry it. If it boots, then your problem is related to board flex rather than bridged points. If it does not, and you've attempted a hell of a run of trial and error relating to the tightness of your HS bolts, chances are your board is done for and it's time to send it in for a re-ball.

[jager673]

QUOTE(flippy10 @ Dec 7 2007, 03:36 AM)

A lot of people tend to heat gun their motherboard with the heat sinks super tight, this is just asking for you to permanently damage your motherboard/GPU and bridge some connections. If you use the heat gun fix, and I say fix and not "trick" because we all know what "trick" means.

First off, when you heat gunned the motherboard were your heat sinks attached or not attached?
If they we're attached, chances are you've bridged a good amount of connections or less likely, killed your GPU.

I'd follow Brandogg's advice, X tightening formation, hand tight and then a little further. If you still continue to get the 0020, Attempt a quick start with the heat sinks just resting on the dies of the GPU. Make sure there still thermal paste, so that you just don't fry it. If it boots, then your problem is related to board flex rather than bridged points. If it does not, and you've attempted a hell of a run of trial and error relating to the tightness of your HS bolts, chances are your board is done for and it's time to send it in for a re-ball.

Send it into M$ or what?

EDIT: Just tried to set the HS on the GPU and it still gave me error 0020.
EDIT 2: I tired the heat gun fix WITH the CPU heatsink on and everytime after that i did it without any heatsinks on.

This post has been edited by jager673: Dec 8 2007, 03:58 AM

[jager673]

any ideas?

[jager673]

anyone??

[brandogg]

There's a semi-good chance that when you tried the heat gun *with* the heat sink on, you bridged a connection. If you can't get it working, you're best solution is to send your 360 away for a BGA reball. It's gonna cost a pretty penny, but it's better than a dead system with no warranty.

[flippy10]

See, I was thinking that 0020 could be a bad connection with the CPU.
It makes sense in theory, because 0020 only happens when you over-tighten the GPU usually. So, when the board flexes to a certain degree and severs the direct connection bus with the CPU. So if there is a permanently damaged connection there, or a solder ball that is just very reluctant to reconnect. Send it in for a re-ball, and they'll tell you if it can be repaired or not at the very least. There are various people that do re-balls on this forum. Coming from my experience with most of these threads so far, Bojngles and Superbee both do re-balling. People also recommend Got Maxx 21. (sp?)

[jager673]

QUOTE(flippy10 @ Dec 9 2007, 06:20 PM)

See, I was thinking that 0020 could be a bad connection with the CPU.
It makes sense in theory, because 0020 only happens when you over-tighten the GPU usually. So, when the board flexes to a certain degree and severs the direct connection bus with the CPU. So if there is a permanently damaged connection there, or a solder ball that is just very reluctant to reconnect. Send it in for a re-ball, and they'll tell you if it can be repaired or not at the very least. There are various people that do re-balls on this forum. Coming from my experience with most of these threads so far, Bojngles and Superbee both do re-balling. People also recommend Got Maxx 21. (sp?)

How much does it cost for a reball?

[funtak]

I just managed to fix 0020 with 1 penny. I removed the x-clamp thing, put AS5 on both sides of a penny and put it on the chip then put the heatsink back on and screwed the mobo back to the board. 0020 went away and I booted.

[jager673]

QUOTE(funtak @ Dec 9 2007, 10:36 PM)

I just managed to fix 0020 with 1 penny. I removed the x-clamp thing, put AS5 on both sides of a penny and put it on the chip then put the heatsink back on and screwed the mobo back to the board. 0020 went away and I booted.

Is that even safe to do?

[jager673]

Is that safe to do?