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[absami]

i hav xclampd my xbox but it does not last more than 4 days......

first i tried the fix from www.x-clamp-fix.com.....the one with one spring washer beneath the mobo and 1 spring and 1 nylon washer above mobo.....

then i went for lawdawg.......

i can only fix temprarily by changing settings a little bit and overheating and have an external 120 mm fan standing above the heatsinks.......it starts freezing followed by 3 ROD after a few days.....

how do i fix it permanent?

[RDC]

Ya can't really, the best temporary fix though is to have it reflowed properly and then cooling upgrades done to it to try and keep it working if the reflow works.

[absami]

it even freezes after 10 secs of turning the power on.....so heat is not the only issue.....

[RDC]

I never said it was, it's the bad BGA joints under the GPU and or CPU that cause 99.9% of the problems. Doing cooling upgrades right from the start is good (thus voiding the 3 year warranty for any 3RLOD, so it's not recommended, keep the warranty intact) but doing cooling upgrades after the 3RLOD fact isn't really going to help much at all, that's where the reflow works best at an attempt to get it going again. The X-clamp replacement done by itself is a 50/50 shot and not something that will last as long because it only presses the bad BGA joints back together to make connection again, that can and will fail later down the road, just a matter of time. A reflow is at least an attempt at resoldering the BGA joints for a longer lasting temporary fix, but nothing is a permanent fix and isn't going to be until M$ starts building these things right from the start.

[WetWilly2]

RDC, if I am not mistaken it is nearly impossible for the "do it yourselfer" to fix bad BGA joints unless you have a reflow machine right?

This post has been edited by WetWilly2: Nov 19 2007, 04:39 PM

[RDC]

Correct, it needs to be done on a machine with the correct profile, top side heat, bottom side heat and ramp up/cool down times, so it's not something that can be done anywhere near properly with a heat gun or a toaster oven. True it does cost around $50-$100 to have it done, but if your warranty is gone and ya want the best chance at having it working again it should be looked into, but even then it's still not a 100% guarantee that it'll fix it, but it's the best method and the only one that attempts to solve the problem.

[adrenaline_wave]

I came up with this for a similar issues I was having.. I've done too so far and both consoles are working again.

This is a last ditch effort by the way.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=629455

[absami]

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This post has been edited by absami: Nov 19 2007, 10:35 PM

[absami]

QUOTE(adrenaline_wave @ Nov 19 2007, 09:50 PM)

I came up with this for a similar issues I was having.. I've done too so far and both consoles are working again.

This is a last ditch effort by the way.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=629455

thats crazy bro  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i don think ill do that until my xbox goes completly dead.....ill go for rbjtech's shim method now.....

[absami]

QUOTE(RDC @ Nov 19 2007, 09:43 PM)

Correct, it needs to be done on a machine with the correct profile, top side heat, bottom side heat and ramp up/cool down times, so it's not something that can be done anywhere near properly with a heat gun or a toaster oven. True it does cost around $50-$100 to have it done, but if your warranty is gone and ya want the best chance at having it working again it should be looked into, but even then it's still not a 100% guarantee that it'll fix it, but it's the best method and the only one that attempts to solve the problem.

i m not worried about the warranty beacause i didnt get 1  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ......i got 1 with the mod chip......im kind new at this stuff so can u tell me whats reflow exactly and is there any tutorial for it on the web?