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foo_addict

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« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2007, 05:58:00 AM »

Hi guys,

I tried this today and it all went a bit wrong.... Used the same temp profile as you guys and after 9 mins on 450 I decided to open the door just to check when BANG! One of the capacitors exploded right past my face! VERY LUCKY! Took it out straight away and let it cool down.

Cleaned off all the fibre like remains of the capacitor from around the oven and mobo. Just plugged it in, basically for a laugh but its starting up fine blink.gif havent played anything yet as im not quite sure what that capacitor did. I took pictures but my pc wont take them off my phone at the mo so you'll have to wait. However, I can show you which capacitor went from this image....

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Anyone know what this one did and/or if its safe to still use the xbox?

Cheers
Adam
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HCarr277

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« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2007, 07:51:00 AM »

I have been doing extensive reading here on the forums about the various fixes for the RROD, as I'm considering purchasing a 360 on eBay and attempting a repair.  This Betty Crocker reflow method makes sense to me, of course as a last resort, but every method I have read about seems to turn out not-so-permanent, from this one to the X clamp replacement (the most successful it seems) or heat gun, eventually resulting in the RROD again.

We all know that heat kills electronic components.  At such an extreme temperature there is no doubt in my mind that it will reflow the solder, but at what price to the longevity of the other electrical components?  I'm sure the heat affects the rest of the mobo in some sort of negative fashion in the long run, possibly the reason for the RROD reappearing after this method.  I realize that this is similar to the method used in production to flow the solder to begin with, but I'm sure that it's under more controlled cirumstances.

Also, I know this a little off topic, but has M$ resolved this issue with the 360s they are producing now?  Say, if I were to buy a new one, would I need to expect to eventually get the RROD even on a new unit?  I know it would be covered under warranty, but I have read several times on here of people sending units in for warranty repair and getting back refurbished units that also eventually get the RROD.  I have always been an XBox fan and as much as I'd love to have a 360, I'm considering just forgetting the whole thing and getting an original XBox and all my favorite games.  I don't want a console I'm going to have to be working on constantly with the thought in the back of my mind that every day I turn it on may be the last time it works.
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foo_addict

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« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2007, 08:03:00 AM »

Manage to sort my phone out....

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HCarr277

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« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2007, 08:28:00 AM »

OMG... blink.gif

See, this is exactly what I'm concerned about...

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foo_addict

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« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2007, 09:38:00 AM »

To be fair, if you forget about me nearly blinding myself, its closer to working than it was before. Going to replace the capacitor tonight and hopefully it'll work again!
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« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2007, 01:55:00 PM »

LMAO it works. Great (if not a little dangerous) fix!!!
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« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2007, 06:21:00 PM »

Can I put something over other components to "protect" them a little bit? I might try this, my 360 has been giving me extreme trouble lately.
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« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2007, 07:54:00 AM »

Hey everyone, just checking in -

Update on my system:

When I turn it on, I get the 0001 power supply error 3rod error. Does anyone know what to do in this matter? I've heard that your power supply is probably bad and to use another's power brick..?? How could my power supply be bad when it worked fine until after I baked my 360 the second time...?? Ports fried after the baking?? I can still plug it in..

Before I baked my 360, I was getting the 0020 error after the MKIII RBJ method..
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« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2007, 10:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(charles648 @ Dec 6 2007, 04:30 PM) View Post

Hey everyone, just checking in -

Update on my system:

When I turn it on, I get the 0001 power supply error 3rod error. Does anyone know what to do in this matter? I've heard that your power supply is probably bad and to use another's power brick..?? How could my power supply be bad when it worked fine until after I baked my 360 the second time...?? Ports fried after the baking?? I can still plug it in..

Before I baked my 360, I was getting the 0020 error after the MKIII RBJ method..


I have the same case like yours. It got short somewhere around the motherboard. When I check with tester 12v and ground are short . I am still working on it look for the damage component. I have tried change the mosfet and no help.
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charles648

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« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2007, 11:01:00 AM »

I have the same case like yours. It got short somewhere around the motherboard. When I check with tester 12v and ground are short . I am still working on it look for the damage component. I have tried change the mosfet and no help.

Thanks for replying!! Maybe if you figure out what went wrong I'll get my 360 working again!!
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« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2007, 01:28:00 AM »

The best way to test, is to find each incoming pin off the PSU input, and test continuity. There shouldn't be a considerable amount of continuity due to the various resistance factors on the motherboard. If there is, then you've found where your short is. Trace the traces around, and cross it out.
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« Reply #71 on: December 14, 2007, 08:07:00 PM »

will my nylon washers melt? if i covered some parts in foil would it help with them not melting?
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« Reply #72 on: December 14, 2007, 09:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(foo_addict @ Dec 5 2007, 07:39 AM) View Post

Manage to sort my phone out....

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Hats off to you man...  Heres a case of beer!  beerchug.gif  Hope that puppy lives after the cap replacement.

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elocin671

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« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2007, 06:40:00 AM »

i pre heated the oven for 450F. let the motherboard bake for 9 1/2 mins. raised the heat to 475F  for the last 30 seconds(10 mins total). and this darn board still doesnt work..

This post has been edited by elocin671: Dec 16 2007, 02:41 PM
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« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2007, 02:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(elocin671 @ Dec 16 2007, 05:40 AM) *

i pre heated the oven for 450F. let the motherboard bake for 9 1/2 mins. raised the heat to 475F  for the last 30 seconds(10 mins total). and this darn board still doesnt work..


I'm not sure going over 450 is a good idea. I went to 460 for a couple seconds, and my caps were really scarry (much more goo), so i immediately dropped back down.

My box is still running perfectly, by the way.

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