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[Renegade56]

Hi there,
Did x-clamp a week ago, everything worked fine. Took the x-clamp off to do some mobo soldering.Put everything back together and now I am getting error 0022. After changing the # of washers and tighteness still cant get it. So now I am looking for a good guy/company to go to. Im looking to spend $50 for the fix (I think that is what i've read it costs)

[THDVL]

Would be nice if it was only 50$

go here http://xbox360-pros.com/xbox-360-repair-service.aspx
I'm probably going to send mine to them monday.. they charge 60-90$. I would rather do this and have a perm fix than just a temp xclamp fix that may go out at anytime.

This post has been edited by THDVL: Oct 21 2007, 02:08 AM

[Tortuga2112]

where do you live?

superbee and bojngles do this.

but for $50 you're not going to get a re-ball. reflow only for that price. you're looking at double that or more for re-balling , its a much more labour intensive process , though. probably the only real fix for the 3RLOD ,
but it takes some very expensive equipment.

[THDVL]

I'm in Austin Tx. Sux reballing is so expensive, but I want a real fix. I'll check out those other two sites you recommended. I like that other site I posted above because they're actually featured in OXM. Just makes me feel more confident that my 360 is good hands.

Well... after searchin google I'm guessing superbee and bojngles are members here, not websites lol.. Color me retarded.

This post has been edited by THDVL: Oct 21 2007, 03:17 AM

[Renegade56]

thanks guys.

Tortugga~ Im from California.

This post has been edited by Renegade56: Oct 21 2007, 06:56 AM

[bojngles]

Thanks for the recommendations  Yes we are featured in OXM and we will be having another half page feature next month as well.  We do plenty of cooling upgrades in addition to the reflow to keep your system running cool and stop the red lights from ever coming back.

[Relix]

So, you guys do reballing or only reflow?

I did the X Clamp fix on mine, and its dying again, will need to re-ball it. You guys do this? Cuz if so I am sending mine as fast as I can =P

[troublemaker400]

I'm in the same boat.  seems the xclamp replacement was only a temporary solution for me.  Is the reball really a permanent fix?

[Navillos]

a reball will only be a perm fix if its done with lead solder not this leadfree crap.

[bojngles]

reflowing the lead free solder is only effective if you can keep the system cool after the reflow.  Prevent the board from warping and you prevent the 3 red lights from ever coming back.  That is what we perfected after fixing now over 3000 xbox 360s.

[RDC]

QUOTE(Relix @ Oct 21 2007, 08:09 PM)

So, you guys do reballing or only reflow?

I did the X Clamp fix on mine, and its dying again, will need to re-ball it. You guys do this? Cuz if so I am sending mine as fast as I can =P

Contact superbee (xb360reflow.com) about having that done, and he does reflows as well. Unless you're severely attached to that 360 though, buying a Core system and selling off the PSU and such from it and the old 360 to recoup some of the cost would be the better option opposed to a reball. After shipping cost and the reball you're looking at around half, or more, of the cost of a Core system, and since you can sell off the things from it ya don't need plus the old one that makes it even cheaper.

[gbedi]

I tried calling and emailing xbox pros... no response. the 1-800 number disconnects after one ring and their local 516 number seems to be disconnected. What's up bojingles? I'm ready to send my xbox in!

[gbedi]

QUOTE(gbedi @ Oct 22 2007, 06:01 PM)

I tried calling and emailing xbox pros... no response. the 1-800 number disconnects after one ring and their local 516 number seems to be disconnected. What's up bojingles? I'm ready to send my xbox in!

nevermind, got through to them, will post back on results!

[troublemaker400]

So a reball and reflow is a repair...and just the reflow is another repair?


Just trying to clarify who does what, and what is the better fix.

Thanks in advance,
Luke

[G0t M4xx 21]

The CPU and GPU connect to the motherboard through hundreds of balls of solder in between the two components.

As the 360's motherboard heats and cools many times, it warps, and some of the solder balls will crack and stop conducting.

One fix is to heat up the GPU with a SMT rework station, and reflow (remelt) the solder balls so that the broken ones will flow back together and fix the connection. The limitation is that the lead-free solder used on the 360 is hard to work with and is brittle (why they broke in the first place).

The better alternative is to actually remove the GPU/CPU from the board, remove all the solder, put fresh solder balls on the chips, and reinstall them on the board with a BGA rework station.