Topic: Had Problems With Xbox For 3 Months... (Read 101 times)

XplicitContent · « **on:** December 11, 2004, 05:32:00 PM »

I have had a problem for over 3 months on my Xbox, it locks up everytime during a game (not loading, DURING the game) and sumtimes locks up during the boot screen, if it doesn't lock up during the boot screen, it will instead stutter, and freeze for a second, then continue. I have the installation all good and all, not heat issues, not caches, trust me when I say this, but I went through everything. Until one of my friends sisters, boyfriend the ultimate installer, said if I had EvolutionX and I said yeah, then he said sumthing about debug...what? Here is my problem, I need to know what he meant so I can research on it and figure it out. I dont know if he meant debugging for the dash EvoX, or if debugging the bios, or debugging sumthing else. Can anyone please be kind and explain to me the possibilities on what he meant? Thanx.

chizz · « **Reply #1 on:** December 11, 2004, 09:27:00 PM »

Mine locks up during the game too.
Its brand new 1.6b running Slayers 2.6
Running bios EvoX_M8_FC_06_Blue_256.bin from Slayers

imagenius · « **Reply #2 on:** December 11, 2004, 09:31:00 PM »

chizz thats your problem you are using M8 not M8plus which has the fix. Update and you should be fine.

pennywisdom · « **Reply #3 on:** December 11, 2004, 10:34:00 PM »

chizz · « **Reply #4 on:** December 11, 2004, 10:52:00 PM »

XplicitContent · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2004, 12:59:00 AM »

I don't think everyone is reading my first post correctly. None of you really need to know exactly what is wrong with my Xbox, because I made a 90 post topic about it, and nobody knows a damn thing. What I wanted from u guys is, what is debugging or debug relating to the Xbox?

(Just for the record, it is a 1.0 Xbox, EvoX 3935, and Bios X2 4981.06. Remember, stick to the topic please, thanx.)

Chancer · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2004, 04:25:00 AM »

XplicitContent · « **Reply #7 on:** December 12, 2004, 12:36:00 PM »

As for the Ultimate Installer, he couldn't fix it that one time he told me about debugging because he was just there at my friend's to pick up his sister for a date, so it was only 5 minutes, meaning no time to explain. I know there is sumthing about debugging, because he would know, and if you guys dont know, then that make u guys newb on this issue, im not calling u guys newbs tho, just on this issue. And guys, PLEASE, I didn't start this topic about how to fix my friggin Xbox, just to tell me what is debugging. As for the details, I will tell you basically everything, but still, I guarentee none of you will know what is wrong with my Xbox.

Locks up during games within 5 minutes of gameplay
Stutters during bootup, same with sound as soon as the X shows up
Sometimes locks up during bootup, meaning I have to restart it
Locks up WITHOUT chip in, as I have took it out to try that
NOT a heat issue as the temps are normal
Up to date bios/dash versions
A version 1.0 Xbox
No hardware mods (was but undid everything)
Clean install for chip
NO solder points touching as I have checked
Sumtimes stutters during dashes (rare)
Not IDE Cable as I have tried a new one
Burned boot disc successfully
Tried games off hard drive and through D drive
Music and Movies play FINE, no lockups/stutters
Stock Xbox hdd
Turned off/on IGR and TSR doesn't do crap
Flashed with X2 4981.06, then reflashed again to see (didn't work and Im not going to try 4983.06 as I know it isnt the problem, since the bios I have now, had worked before in my previous motherboard that broke, so I bought new mobo/hdd off ebay and this is where I started having probs, by the way, the board seems in fine condition and don't say its the mcpx/gpu chip or whatever because it isn't or else the music and movies wouldn't play)

Thats about everything that my Xbox has went through, and Im still here waiting for an answer on debugging. About debugging, it can be anything, and Im pretty sure I saw sumthing about debuggin in the mIRC network thingy. And Im pretty sure sumone on here would know sumthing about debugging. Thanx...

and good luck figuring this out.

Chancer · « **Reply #8 on:** December 12, 2004, 01:03:00 PM »

This has nothing to with Debugging. If you wish to use your Xbox for this purpose then you could have a look here

or read up here http://www.xbox-scen...s/sdk-start.php
or here http://www.xbox-scen...s/debug-xdk.php
Do you honestly think if this was something you did to make your Xbox stop freezing that nobody here would know at all. How come loads of people with evox don,t have a need to "debug"
Sorry but your All powerful installer thing does not hold water. If it was me I would have rung my mate and got him to talk to his sisters boyfriend or whatever (got a number to phone him) Believe what you want but why do you think nobody has answered.
You have in actual fact answered your own question with your last post

XplicitContent · « **Reply #9 on:** December 12, 2004, 01:53:00 PM »

Ok, thanx for your opinion Chancer, but maybe I was wrong about him saying sumthing about debugging. Maybe its the fact that I am hearing impaired and have misheard him. As for the Xbox motherboard, it said on ebay it was a fine, working mobo/hdd that was pulled out of a working Xbox, and it doesn't seem to be modded/messed up in any way.

So it sux for me...I can't ring him up since I can't hear loud enough through a phone, might've misheard him on debugging or sumthing, and I have a non-working Xbox. I will send him my Xbox for a checkup and see if he can fix it. And please don't misjudge the installer, because he is in college for electronics stuff, and has installed chips for several of my friends.

Again, any other thoughts are needed.

HELLTICK · « **Reply #10 on:** December 12, 2004, 06:39:00 PM »

what game? I know blood wake freezes off hdd if my ethernet cable is plugged in.

XplicitContent · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2004, 06:58:00 AM »

I'm thinking its the hard drive too, but wouldn't there be problems with music and movies too? As for the games, I have tried all my retail games (13) and burned 2 to hard drive and still failed to play normal. I will try a new hard drive if I had one, but I will during christmas time. Any thoughts?

rtheil · « **Reply #12 on:** December 13, 2004, 01:34:00 PM »

The only thing that debugging might do for you is to show you what happened when the xbox locked up. Now, how will that information help you? It probably won't If you don't know what debugging is, the debug info won't help you. But, your sisters boyfriends uncles cousins fathers friend was right... in a sense. debug info could be very helpful if you know how to use it.

If the games off the HD lock up, AND the games off the DVD lock up, that doesn't necessarily eliminate the HD causing the problems. This is because of the cached info that the game may be using off the HD. As far as music & stuff off the HD goes, maybe it's mot that portion of the drive. Maybe it's some bad sectors, or a problem with one of the heads reading a certain portion off of one of the platters (i.e. the X partition, or where e:\cache is or something like that). The places where you have other stuff will work fine, but not where the bad data is.

And, just because your expert installer is studying electronics, and has modded other xboxes successfully, doesn't necessarily mean that yours is perfect. He's human just like the rest of us. He has the ability to screw up. Not saying that he did, but it's surely possible. Don't leave out any possibilities unless you're ABSOLUTELY sure.

What if you take the mod chip out, or turn it off? does it still lock up? My suggestion is to one by one eliminate items it could be. you've eliminated the DVD drive cause it happens on games that are on the HD. Now, try eliminating the mod chip, then the HD, and move on from there.... not that there's many more parts you could take out!!

XplicitContent · « **Reply #13 on:** December 13, 2004, 03:11:00 PM »

Um, if you thought that my friends sisters, boyfriend installed the chip and all and "failed" at it, saying he makes mistakes too, he didn't install no chip for me. The mobo mightv'e been defective from the guy who sold it on ebay.

As for which mobo type I have, I mentioned it earlier in the first page, the part about what happens around the Xbox, what it does, etc. Don't mind my sig, because I do have a new 1.6, just trying to get my 1.0 working.

As for the debuggin, I knew the installer was right, I mean, I don't understand why he would have mentioned that if he didn't know anything about it. For those of you that said sumthing about debugging is useless to my problem, I guess your wrong. I will eliminate the hdd to see if its the problem, but it seems I will have to wait until Christmas for a hdd, or just have the installer check it.

Oh and one more thing, I already mentioned that the Xbox games freeze up WITHOUT the chip in, and with the chip in turned off. So, not trying to bash ya, but why didn't read the whole thing?

Anyways, I do appreciate everything you guys typed in. Hmm...what to do...

Chancer · « **Reply #14 on:** December 13, 2004, 03:34:00 PM »

Right lets get this straight cos we are going in circles here. If you use XDK to develop apps programs or do any programming of code for the Xbox and you have problems you can use a debug bios and send debug info to your PC to help identify and correct problems with whatever you are developing.
Its not like an error report that will say your box stopped responding because.......
You really need to read up on this as you will find its actually you thats mistaken.
As for believing you have tried everything i don't really think I can trust your checking methods as you don't seem to know what you are on about.
I would suggest you send the box to your mates sisters boyfriend or whatever cos I reckon you have had all the answers people on here can think of and you just pour cold water on everything.
You obviously have not done what you asked the question for in the first place which was
"Find out what debug was not whats wrong with your box"

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