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[RDC]

It have a HDD? If so tried removing it to test that way?

Will it power on with the Eject button? or is it the same deal?

What color is the LED on the power supply "brick" before trying to power it on as well as when trying to power it on?

[RDC]

If this thing's still under warranty don't even mess with it, likewise if you haven't screwed with the warranty sticker you can have M$ "repair" it for $140.

If ya tampered with the sticker then it's yours and if ya wanna go for it yourself it's hard to exactly say what ya may be getting yourself into. If there were a short in there on the 12v or 5v lines you'd most likely get an error code from it. Honestly, aside from trying a different PSU (which ya already have) and another RF board (which means voiding the warranty if ya have it) there's not a lot you may want to get into. You'll have to tear the thing apart and start poking around in there with a multimeter looking for shorts, opens, and both for voltage and no voltage where it should and shouldn't be, it's definitely a problem that will require some troubleshooting to even possibly figure out.

[RDC]

Try another RF board since ya have access to one, ya never know.

Aside from that, you're in for a treat and will just have to start checking out this and that until ya run across something that doesn't measure right. I doubt you have a short on any of the main voltage lines, that usually results in an error code being thrown right off the bat. See if the 5v Standby is there and see what happens to it when you try to power it on.

[shocc0r]

So check this shit out. I changed the rf board and it still was freaking out. So I decided to do some more troubleshooting. I unplugged the dvd drive and it fires up right away. This drive is not modded at all. What could be causing the problem? Could it be the cables,drive motor,drive pcb?

[ausmods]

That kind of thing usually happens when some part of the motherboard is horting out with metal cage... Try removing the motherboard completely and then try to power it on...

It should work fine if you take it out of the metal cage... and if it works and u go to put it back in, just be careful with how tight you screw down the motherboard and everything so it doesnt happen again.

[RDC]

Plug in another DVD drive and see what happens, it wont play any games because the key will be different, but it will play CDs and DVD movies. Likewise try that drive in another 360 and see if it "kills" it as well, if it's the drive causing that wierdo issue it's the first I've heard of it.

[brandogg]

Try using a different wall outlet. If you're using a surge protector - don't. It's possibly that the system isn't getting enough power, but with the DVD-ROM unplugged it draws a little bit less.

[RDC]

QUOTE(brandogg @ Jul 1 2007, 10:36 PM)

Try using a different wall outlet. If you're using a surge protector - don't. It's possibly that the system isn't getting enough power, but with the DVD-ROM unplugged it draws a little bit less.

That's a joke right?

[pimpmaul69]

QUOTE(RDC @ Jul 2 2007, 07:15 AM)

That's a joke right?

actually there may be some truth to that but i would say inside the power supply.. i have seen many 1.6 xbox 1's with power supplies that will make the system frag unless you unplug either the dvd drive or the hdd and with one off it will boot.. i personally dont have the time to look into fixing them as i have a ton of replacement power supplies so i dont know what causes it but replacing the psu worked just fine and dandy.. but however if you have a samsung drive there is a chip that sits on the dvd mobo that is exposed to the gpu heatsink and can blow if the fans dont operate properly and only takes about 2 minutes of the heat blasting on the drive with non operating fans to do that... i did that while conducting a test of what happens when the fans arent runningto see what kinda damage it would cause and other than the 2 red lights that was the only thing it damaged and it blew a hole out the chip

[RDC]

There are no ICs in the DVD drive that are "exposed" to the GPU heatsink, furthermore the temperature the thing went thru to solder it onto the board in the first place is hotter than the heatsink could ever get. Many a person on here has wrapped their 360 in a towel for much longer than 2 min. and never had that problem. A DVD drive with a blown motor controller IC is a far cry from a perfectly good drive that's "drawing too much power" and causing the 360 to show no life at all. Even with that IC forked the 360 will still run. If the short was bad enough from the IC toasting the 360 would throw and error about it, likewise if the main power connector isn't pushed in all the way the 360 still throws an error code, this 360 was lifeless, big difference.

Until the OP reports that another drive has been tried or that drive tried in another 360 everything is just guess work. I wouldn't be half surprised if the thing just up and started working again either, pointing more to to a crappy solder joint or borderline component somewhere that caused it and removing the DVD drive just gave it a nudge toward working again.

[brandogg]

How is it a joke? It could be possible. When the DVD-ROM is unplugged, the system uses less power. Perhaps he has a bad outlet he's using, maybe there was a surge in his house. Maybe he is using a surge protector/multi-outlet, and has added a component to that power supply recently. If the system doesn't work with the DVD-ROM in using the current wall outlet, and does without it, then moves it to another room, and it works both ways, then he's found the problem.

[RDC]

QUOTE(brandogg @ Jul 2 2007, 02:26 PM)

How is it a joke? It could be possible. When the DVD-ROM is unplugged, the system uses less power. Perhaps he has a bad outlet he's using, maybe there was a surge in his house. Maybe he is using a surge protector/multi-outlet, and has added a component to that power supply recently. If the system doesn't work with the DVD-ROM in using the current wall outlet, and does without it, then moves it to another room, and it works both ways, then he's found the problem.

Unless the DVD drive is really screwed up the power it consumes isn't something to be concerned about, and he already tried another PSU. Suggesting the AC outlet is the issue is something a M$ troubleshooter would do and anything else plugged into that outlet would have issues as well. If the problem is the DVD drive then it's not a perfectly functioning one or has it plugged in upside down as succaworm had, but I'd really like to think if that was the issue it was discovered when he removed said drive and then tried it again, but that's not always the case around here.

[brandogg]

It may be something an M$ employee would suggest, but it could be correct on the rare occasion. I personally threw away a powerstrip because 2 of the outlets on it would power some devices, my PC speakers and my router, but when I had to move things around and plug my monitor into a different plug on the strip, it wouldn't work, moved it to a different outlet on the same strip and it worked fine. It's probably not the case, and I'd be shocked if it was such a simple thing however.

[shocc0r]

RDC was right. The dvd drive has a bad motor. I put in my samsung drive from my other 360 and my bad 360 booted just fine. Like he said the key was in the wrong place and it only read dvd movies and music cdz. But it did boot. I put my bad drive back in and the same end result. It came on and died immediatly. Unplug the bad drive and BOOM it boots. Never seen this kind of thing happen before. But at the same time I have never seen a dvd drive die like that. But yea,problem solved.....I hope! RDC thanks for your input it helped me alot!