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[Hercules Man]

Hi, i had a MS25 which was sticking when i pressed eject, it only did this when the 360 was stood vertical, it was fine horizontally. So i bought a new MS28 drive, and hey no presto its doing exactly the same thing, anyone any ideas.


Cheers

H MAn

[SimianEtza]

QUOTE(Hercules Man @ Jun 12 2007, 09:12 PM)

Hi, i had a MS25 which was sticking when i pressed eject, it only did this when the 360 was stood vertical, it was fine horizontally. So i bought a new MS28 drive, and hey no presto its doing exactly the same thing, anyone any ideas.
Cheers

H MAn

It's probably your case. Are you sure it's fitted in nicely, and not blocking the DVD drive?

[Hercules Man]

Cant see it being the case, i had a Hitachi drive in it for a long time with no problems at all, its strange how a MS25 does the exact same. If i explain the following it will be more clear how i think its down to Samsung and not my case.

Firstly i had a Hitachi drive in my Clear Ghostcase for many months with no problems ejecting virtically, then comes along another 360 with a Samsung MS25 in an original 360 white case which had the virtical eject syndrome. I swapped the Board from the 360 which had the MS25 drive in to my Ghostcase and bought a new MS28 as the MS25 drives laser was bad and it had the eject syndrome, so i get a MS28 thinking that it was probably just a fault with the MS25 drive sticking, but no, the brand new MS28 drive with the board from the original case i put in my ghostcase sticks when vertical, so now you see why im sure its nothing to do with my ghostcase.


H MAn

[Navillos]

ahh the classic samsung drive defect. go down to your nearest dollar store and buy a box of cheap hair ties, they look as though they have been cut from a tube of rubber (usually multiple colors). you might have to stretch it a little but works everytime. most drives have gears for the eject, samsung is just cheap at this part the use the stupid rubber bands. but damn its a good drive. while your in there check your laser rails for any dust build up and clean and regrease. also clean your laser with alcohol and a Q-tip. just some small maintenence your drive will love you after.

oh i need some drive parts let me know.

later, Mike

This post has been edited by Navillos: Jun 12 2007, 10:35 PM

[DrJeckyll]

Good rubber bands last much longer than crappy plastic gears. A band is easily replaced. Try replacing the gears when they wear out.

[Navillos]

QUOTE(DrJeckyll @ Jun 12 2007, 04:37 PM)

Good rubber bands last much longer than crappy plastic gears. A band is easily replaced. Try replacing the gears when they wear out.

keep em greased and they'll outlast the rest of the drive.

[DrJeckyll]

Somehow that's not very comforting reading all sorts of drive mayhem nearly every day  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Hercules Man]

LOL, it makes me laugh to see all the theorys that people have, when infact since i posted this question i have dismantled my drive and analized the problem, and its quite simple. The problem is not really with the machanism but it is with the magnetic field in the magnet which grips the disc to the motor, it is too strong. As i have said in my previous post, i have the ghost case which consists of a small clear belt type piece of plastic which sits across the centre of the drive to hold the magnet in place. On analysing this on eject function, the laser motor part does not manage to pull away from the magnet when the drive is virtical, yet it does(just) and i say just does when it is lay horizontal, and this is purely down to physics and the force of gravity. So how do i fix this problem? i thought about the Hitcahi drive, hmm, the hitachi drive never gave me this problem, so off with the Hitachi drive lid and onto the Samsung drive it goes, and sure enough, the problem is fixed.

Good job i took stuff apart as a kid, haha (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


H MAn

[DrJeckyll]

Does the magnet come into direct contact with the laser part? If so just put something in between like a piece of ducktape.

I had a similair problem with a solenoid once. The core would only let go if you'd tap it. Turns out the core was permenantly magnetized so it wouldn't let go of the metal housing.

This post has been edited by DrJeckyll: Jun 12 2007, 11:22 PM

[ocdesi]

QUOTE(Navillos @ Jun 12 2007, 10:35 PM)

ahh the classic samsung drive defect. go down to your nearest dollar store and buy a box of cheap hair ties, they look as though they have been cut from a tube of rubber (usually multiple colors). you might have to stretch it a little but works everytime. most drives have gears for the eject, samsung is just cheap at this part the use the stupid rubber bands. but damn its a good drive. while your in there check your laser rails for any dust build up and clean and regrease. also clean your laser with alcohol and a Q-tip. just some small maintenence your drive will love you after.

oh i need some drive parts let me know.

later, Mike

I tried this on both my stuck ms25s and they both open with no problems now. Thanks!

[Hercules Man]

QUOTE(ocdesi @ Jun 12 2007, 11:41 PM)

I tried this on both my stuck ms25s and they both open with no problems now. Thanks!

Well, if you get a puncture in your car tyre, you can fill it with concreate from a compressed can and drive home, but the real fix is to seal up the hole. you get my drift???


H MAn

[Navillos]

QUOTE(Hercules Man @ Jun 12 2007, 05:51 PM)

Well, if you get a puncture in your car tyre, you can fill it with concreate from a compressed can and drive home, but the real fix is to seal up the hole. you get my drift???
H MAn

not a very good analogy. his problem had nothing to do with yours as his magnet wasnt sticking. his was the tray trying to come open no matter what flat or standing. did you ever have an xbox 1 that did this does SDG-605B ring a bell.

[ocdesi]

QUOTE(Navillos @ Jun 13 2007, 12:46 AM)

not a very good analogy. his problem had nothing to do with yours as his magnet wasnt sticking. his was the tray trying to come open no matter what flat or standing. did you ever have an xbox 1 that did this does SDG-605B ring a bell.

Yeah my drive was stuck in both positions and I would have to push on the tray to actually get it open. It was annoying but I dealt with it. Replacing the band was easy enough and a lot cheaper than buying a replacement lid for the case... that analogy didn't quite make sense to me, glad I wasn't the only one.