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[zarape2]

QUOTE(bad89 @ Apr 25 2008, 06:25 PM)

how can i overheat 360??
sorry for my unknowing

check the link i just post, u can find how there....


read carefully, u need to start the xbox with the fan on top of cpu, cause theres the temperature sensor and the red lights are because the cpu get hot before the gpu

[bad89]

i've also done  the x-clamps fix now the lights are ever green and it's ok.
but i've the problem of the black screen...any ideas?  

[zarape2]

QUOTE(bad89 @ Apr 26 2008, 08:26 PM)

i've also done  the x-clamps fix now the lights are ever green and it's ok.
but i've the problem of the black screen...any ideas?  

do u have sound?

how many pennys do u used?

maybe the screws are to tight....try release them a little

or search on google something like "xbox 360 black screen"

take a look on this  h**p://support.microsoft.com/kb/916158
good luck!

[born2expire]

I did the Penny Fix back in August (12 pennies) and its worked great for the last 8 months with minor adjustments to the x-clamp screws here and there.  Played every game i threw at it just fine, until i came across Condemned 2: Bloodshot where the odd time where the screen would just freeze but the audio would continue for a few seconds, no blinking lights on the console or anything out of the ordinary, so i played with the black (x-clamp) screws a bit more and the problem seemed to be gone.  

That was until i started playing a certain game from Rockstar, and never failing, every 5 mins the console would freeze and the sound would continue for a few seconds, so i decided to take another look inside and see if i can fix this.  Ive tried everything, 2 pennies a stack, 4 pennies a stack, 2 stacks of 4 pennies in between the x-clamps, rethermaling, heat shroud mod, ect, no luck on any of them.  I haven't tried the X-clamp replacement because that is a fair bit of work and i've never seen the RRoD on mine, just checkerboxing (why i did the pennies in the first place).  Is it worth my time to try the X-Clamp replacement?

Since i started to play with it, when powered on the video locks within the first 5 seconds (locks during the initial MS green logo screen) and the green lights go around the ring as usual then they all blink as they should, then i get no lights, the video has locked long before the lights do their thing, but i've never seen a no lights error code.  I'm pretty sure that the GPU is overheating, and I went back to 3 pennies a stack and all 8 black screws in, no difference (no difference any screw configuration i tired).  I tired "cooking" the GPU by pulling the shroud and resting the fans on the CPU heatsink for 30 mins and all that has done is make the freeze happed as soon as any 3D is  displayed, could i have fired my GPU, I would appreciate any suggestions?   Should I just smash my xbox and mail it back to MS, lol.

edit - i belive i was getting no lights being displayed because i didn't have a gamepad plugged in, with a gamepad plugged in I get the normal 1 green light on the console and the same green light on the gamepad.

This post has been edited by born2expire: Apr 28 2008, 02:35 AM

[sreten]

i got da same problem with the black screen
how do i fix it i wanna play GTA 4 and its comin out soon

[19Ripper75]

Happy to report that this fix has worked for me. I used 8 pennies instead of twelve and it worked first try. Just finished playing Gears for about 45 minutes. Thanks for this fix kidderboots! Now I can use whats left of my paycheck for the Iron Maiden concert in June!

This post has been edited by 19Ripper75: Apr 28 2008, 08:34 AM

[RYU81]

I did with 16 Pennies now is work.

[dadamus]

Long term effect: Status Report.
I did my first 8 cents fix back in June '07.  11 months later, it's still going strong. Over a period of time, I fixed (ebay bought, friends, brother in law, son’s friend, son’s friend’s dad/uncle/ and cousin, neighbors, neighbor’s daughter’s boyfriend, and coworkers) well over a dozen “Broken” Xbox 360 with no reported ill effects.(2RROD, 3RROD, and turbo fan)  I've noticed; however, quite a few posts are related to 2RROD (over heat) after doing pennies fix.
Well, here are my 2 cents over 8/12 cents fix.
Please, I don’t want to get into a debate of why and how “my way” works. All credits should go to kidderboots. Thanks to him, we have a lot simpler way to fix 3RROD.  If you need someone/something to blame, blame MS for not doing their homework and forcing all us to be a beta tester.
Who knows? I may well have been lucky. Well, I just want to share what I’ve done.

1. When I do my work, I don’t do usual "Remove existing T-paste and apply AR5, then reassemble x-clamp". Many, including me, do concur that it should be a standard practice. But after doing so many “favor”, I just don’t want to go through it.
2. I use pennies with most copper content. (Pennies made between 1965-1980)
3. I do apply very small amount of AR5 to fill a gap/spaces when I sandwich two pennies.(Between two pennies)
4. I don’t wrap pennies with electric tape. My theory is if memory overheating does contribute to 3RROD, last thing I wanted to do is further limit the heat dissipation by using non heat conductive/transfer material. I used HVAC aluminum tape(Tape used to seal A/C ducks) and cut to proper size(two stacked pennies height) to wrap around sandwiched pennies. Many will argue that I’m at a risk of frying circuit board since there’s a chance of pennies slip and making contact(s) with components. Thermal pads should keep pennies from moving around. Also, when owner do take care of their “high dollar” investment by not dropping, shaking, tripping, and kicking. In other word, use common sense, it shouldn’t be a problem.
3. I do recycle thermal pad on RAM. I trim/cut to 4 equal pieces and remove cloth lining so it can “stick” to RAM and metal casing. I use two cut pieces (one for RAM contact and the other one to contact metal casing). Purpose of it is to fill gap/space to increase friction and add a benefit of using metal casing as a heat sink.
4. I do use all 8 black screws when I re-assemble. I just don’t “TIGHTEN” them up.
5. Few consoles that I worked on had to go through over heating (2RROD) process to give a jump start. I don’t use towel. I use screw drivers to prevent fans from spinning.

Once again, I thank kidderboots for his contribution. (And you should, too.)

[jaym0]

I just got the RROD yesterday, and did the 8 cent fix this morning.
-2 Pennies each stack
-all 8 x-clamp screws tightened.
-used existing thermal pad instead of glue for the four chips

This still resulted in the RROD.

After using the towel method to overheat & shut down the x360 for about 15-20 mins,
and then letting the x360 cool down...

The x360 has new life.

Much thanks to kidderboots for figuring this out.

[kanna]

Ok, I've been sifting for a 2 months studying 3RLOD. I've done both X-Clamp and 12 penny fixes with 100% success. i believe both are stable fixes since they both accomplish the same goal. now for those who still have the problem after the penny fix this is what you do. adjust all the black TORX on the X-Clamps antil they're just flush with the metal casing. install the dvd, fan and shroud. put the top metal cover and hook up the machine. if you still get 3RLOD adjust all black TORX on X-Clamps clockwise 1/4 turn then check again. keep doing this until you start getting a startup followed by 2 red lights. when this happens you are close! now adjust the TORX in at 1/8 clockwise turns. do this once or twice and you'll be in buisness. this is what i've done on 6 box's so far. Another little thing you can do since the cover's are off is drill some holes through the top metal and plastic cases right where the large heatsink sits. it's easy since you'll see an outline where the sink hits the metal plate. I use 5/16 holes in an X pattern. this helps the sink release heat straight out of the case. I even used a small fan from cheap usb powered xbox cooler and glued it over where i drilled the holes. i positioned so it blew into  the case like a pc intake fan. this will create serious air flow through the box which we all know it dosen't have. this also happens to be a viable fix for anyone who has 2 red light problem

[PriesT83]

Doesnt work for me....

Didnt have 3LOD prob, but console would freeze at bootup logo, sometimes get to the dashboard. Now I turn the console on but get nothing not even lights showing an error just the power light. Power button works ok, Eject works ok, and can turn box on by pressing eject aswell as with controller, but wont show light for controller plugged in and doesnt play the startup lights "animation" on the box.

I tried to penny trick with both 8 and 12 pennies and with the black screws in tight, loose and completly out.

Doesnt look good does it?!

[karlgent]

Just tried the penny fix for my 0110 error.

Used 8 pennies and attached with sticky tape.

When black screws were put back in the fan went into overdrive and the 2 red rings appeared, and if the screws were removed/half inserted then the 3 rrod came back.

Going to try adding another penny to each RAM chip and making sure it's secure.

Anyone got any other suggestions?

Cheers

[karlgent]

Okay, I just playyed about with the screws like kanna said and got it to where it went between 3rrod and 2rrod.

I left it on the 3rrod for a couple of mins with the fan going haywire and turned it off.

When I turned it back on it was working but the fan is loud as fuck now. I dont know if this is just because I haven't put the case back on?

Does anyone know if putting the case back on will affect the console and if the reason for the louudness is the missing outer case?

[junior2k8]

I am happy to report this fix has worked for one of my boxes i have 3. 1 good 1 with the benq drive, modded of course .  Then 2more i just purchased off ebay.1 of those i just fixed but.  I didnt only try this trick though and i didnt do the xclamp method instead i followed the guide here http://www.i-hacked....ent/view/263/1/  Thanks a lot for that seemed a lot easier than xclamps!basically they say  machine screws and washers instead of the clamp and cleaned and replaced artic silver on cpu/gpu heatsinks. which i originaly tried it got the xbox working but only for short intervals. then i took it apart and added this 12 cent fix and it works like a charm now!!! no freezing nothing. Got it modded 2 now w00t will report back this weekend to let you know if this worked on the other box that has 3 flashers......Mod the world PimPs

[junior2k8]

oh yea to the guy with the loud fan....once u put the casing backon the fan the windtunnel i like to call it lol it will be quiet again...had me fooled for a sec too....