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[kidderboots]

ArticSilver wont keep the pennies in place but that would be great. there is silver tape (not sure of the name) that is used in laptops that would work great. but anyway this tutorial is made so its a permanent fix and with stuff everyone shoudl have. would could start sayin stuff like why dont we just resolder the chips on better but only 7 of use would end up be able to do it you know. so everyone should have 12 pennies (if you dont email me and i'll send you them haha)and everyone should have electrical tape and a hopefully a glue gun. i tried taping the pennies to the case but didnt work as well as the hot glue. anyway keep brainstorming , but with everyday items and make sure you test first!! thanks guys

[DrJeckyll]

QUOTE(kidderboots @ Jun 4 2007, 09:41 PM)

that extra pressur eon the gpu is not needed when you do this fix (3 penny) you release the pressure by undoing the screws and apply the pressure on the actual failure the ram- its was thought that the heat sink was the cause of the majority of problems when in fact %99 of the time its the ram chips- trust me apply the pressure with a hard substance (not rubber) like the pennies to the ram halpes in mulitple areas on your board. by doing whats stated above with rubber in multiple areas and putting rubber under the dvd drive is doing the same as this fix- but your just adding work thats not needed. when you put rubber under the drive your applying pressure (from the top) to the ram...but in turn yoiur also pushing on your dvd drive in a spot that should be pushed inturn could mess up your drive. anyway yeah you could take the electric tape off but i have seen that one wrap of tape does the trick. thanks for posting guys- let me know the results

More likely you're just countering warping caused by the pressure from the gpu. I believe this works about the same as my nutfix (and any other X-clamp replacement for that matter). The board has something to rest on. But don't forget that X-clamp. There is a lot of pressure from that thing. Way too much which could cause trouble in the future. Loosening the screws can cause more warping because the board is free to bounce up and down with the heatsink.

[kidderboots]

some good points, when doing this fix you dont want to loose your screws. and also any pressure from metal can cause warping for the course of a couple years-and anytime you alter the inside of a console it means do not move the console around alot anymore. and of course play your 360 horizontally not vertically. thanks doctor

[boomstick777]

Did this mod tonight, Double sided electrical tape to stick pennies to ram chips rather than use glue. All seems well waiting for the thing to cool down now getting 2 red lights. Had to towel trick intially to get it back to life, Its a good sign that it is working at all as it has been dead for a couple days. Nothing would get it working so hopefully this is a good sign

Was about to do a full gpu heatsink x-clamp replacement so kidderboots if this works mate i will love you lol saves me a lot of hassle.

Not getting my hopes up just yet (well not to much)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Will update 2moro...

This post has been edited by boomstick777: Jun 5 2007, 04:14 AM

[The Prankster]

Electrical tape holds heat... doesn't 'transfer' it very well at all. If you're wanting to fix the 3RLOD error, just go all the way with Lawdawg0931's tutorial or RBJTech's method. <--- They're the most effective. The eraser way and this are just cheapskate temporary fixes that in the long run aren't good for the xbox 360.

Cheers.

[boomstick777]

Awesome! It works just played gears of war for 30 minutes cant play it any longer gotta go out damn! that is the longest it has worked for weeks! I found that with no screws in the gpu or cpu x clamps via base of console it would overheat getting 2 red light error. So i managed to screw 7 of them back in the 8th wouldn't connect with the mobo becausce it is raised. I know the board is probably scewed now at an angle but dont give a s**t becausce this things works now!

I hope it will keep going long enough for me to save some extra cash to buy a new (Unbanned live) console and sell mine for spares or what not

AWESOME!



kidderboots =  

Update the fans spin faster and the base of the console (metal case) is no longer scorching hot like it used to be? weird!

Hope this fix lasts...

at least until mass effect

[kidderboots]

QUOTE(boomstick777 @ Jun 5 2007, 06:54 AM)

Awesome! It works just played gears of war for 30 minutes cant play it any longer gotta go out damn! that is the longest it has worked for weeks! I found that with no screws in the gpu or cpu x clamps via base of console it would overheat getting 2 red light error. So i managed to screw 7 of them back in the 8th wouldn't connect with the mobo becausce it is raised. I know the board is probably scewed now at an angle but dont give a s**t becausce this things works now!

I hope it will keep going long enough for me to save some extra cash to buy a new (Unbanned live) console and sell mine for spares or what not

AWESOME!

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kidderboots =  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)

Update the fans spin faster and the base of the console (metal case) is no longer scorching hot like it used to be? weird!

Hope this fix lasts...

at least until mass effect

The prankster check out Boomsticks test- I am telling you i'm not making this up- i tested all the other methods and tried my method (3penny fix) and its worked for 11months and counting. Thanks for the update boomstick! should last you for awhile - dont know ho wlong after all the methods you've done...but still obviously a success. Thanks everyone. please continue to test and leave feedback- and pranksters i urge you to try it if you get the chance

This post has been edited by kidderboots: Jun 5 2007, 08:38 PM

[DrJeckyll]

Which error codes has it fixed so far?

[The Prankster]

@DrJeckyll
Almost 99% of 3RLOD errors, whatever the 'hidden' error code be, can be fixed with these methods, penny, eraser, lawdawg, rbjtech etc. Don't take my 99% seriously though lol, but a lot of them are easily fixed with these methods.

@kidderboots
Yeah sorry, that was my bad, I've already fixed one of my xbox 360's with 3RLOD, with lawdawg0931's method, I'm not saying anything of the nature that this won't work, the simple problem is the flexing of the motherboard, so all that needs to be done is have 'things' to correctly align the motherboard with the metal chassis... pennies in your case, erasers in another, but screws that are the correct size in my case.


I'm not against this, and certainly it will work. It's just kind of ironic the 'Twelve Cent Fix' lol. Goodluck with your 360.

Cheers.

This post has been edited by The Prankster: Jun 6 2007, 01:15 AM

[kidderboots]

well Id like to add one thing @Prankster the one thing the pennies do seem to help that the eraser does not is the heat issue....this is very important for these lights not to come back.. the eraser fixes seem to come back after 5months etc....Thats why i would inccourage people to try this one first....but your right obviously those other fixes do help greatly. I just named it 12 cents cause 3 pennies high and 4 sets are needed, sounds catchy and needed a name. we can call it the penny fix....doesnt matter. THANKS for posting. keep giving feed back on other units !

[roof22]

kidderboots showed me this fix in person.  it works great.  So far i have 2 360's that have worked flawless since.  the ram on the 360 does not get that hot so heat trasfer between pennies and ram is not important.  the underlaying problem most of the time is the GPU is not getting a good connection to the motherboard, meaning some joints are cold solder or disconnected.  the 12 cent fix in my opinion flexs the board enough to cause all the contacts to remain in place between the gpu and the pcb.  

This is a excellent cheap fix.
In the end i am not touting that this is the best fix, but for the dad and son who just had enough to get there own shiny new 360 and now its not working, this is worth a shot for them!

[kidderboots]

Are there any new consoles tested? Keep on posting with results, I;m sure there wont be a failed fixes for awhile. Let us all know!

[Heet]

The RAM gets very hot.  Actually the hottest spot in the 360 is in front of the GPU next to the RAM.


Definately a cheap spacer trick.  Good job!

[DrJeckyll]

Looks like all these fixes do the same. They support the board so the gpu is on an equal level with the board.

[qasem]

thanks but any picture please ??