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RDC

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Dead Hitachi 47, Replacement With Samsung Possible?
« on: May 09, 2007, 09:31:00 PM »

No plug and play. Unless you have the key from your old drive you can't replace it with another one anyway.

What was done to your DVD drive?
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jvsjmedia.nl

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Dead Hitachi 47, Replacement With Samsung Possible?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 08:39:00 AM »

Anyone?
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 02:29:00 PM »

Which chip is broken and broken how? have any pics?

If you can get the key from your old drive then yes you can switch from a Hitachi to a Samsung.

That depends on the drive you have, for the Hitachi I'd use the Xecuter adapter or the Xeno one unless you ave SATA ports on your PC that you know will wor with it. For the Samsung then you have to have a Via chipset for the SATA ports, getting a PCI SATA card is the best way to do this. Since you want to go from ne drive to another you're kinda loking at making 2 different setups, since the drives are picky about what they work with.

The programs are different for each drive as well. FOr the Hitachi you can use FWToolBox or the command prompt and do it tat way with the files the hacked FW comes with. The Samsund uses a modified MTKflash that you need to setup with Xtreme Boot Maker.

You're in for a little more work than ya probably expected. Depending on what's wrong with your Hitachi you might be better of getting it working again or replace it with another Hitachi so you can eliminate half of thie mess ya need to get the key changed over.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2007, 03:34:00 PM »

I connected the Xbox360 drive to my PC via SATA.
I powered it by te Xbox360 console.

Booted Windows, but Windows doesnt show it.

In FWtoolbox I used these steps:

Started FWToolbox 3.0
I clicked: "Tools" > "Direct Drive Dump (GDR ONLY!)"
I got the following message:

No GDR-3120L Drives detected!
Make sure the drive is visible on windows first


What did I do wrong?
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RDC

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2007, 03:34:00 PM »

Plenty from the sounds of it. wink.gif

Just because ya have a free SATA port is no guarantee it will work on both types of drives, or either one of them for that matter. Plus the Hitachi has to be in ModeB before it will show up.

FWToolBox is only for the Hitachi, you can use it to read the Samsung FW and inject the key, but you'll have to use MTKflash to reflash that drive as well as dump it in the first place. You do NOT want to dump the Hitachi FW and flash it to the Samsung, that would be awful. It goes like this, Dump the Hitachi FW, get the key from it, dump the Samsung FW an inject that key into it, then reflash the Samsung with that FW. That of course is the "quick and dirty" of it and certain things have to be met before it's all doable, like having the correct SATA setup and the apps and such to do it, as well as have a semi-working drive to get the key from in the first place.

If the chip you screwed up is the FW chip (the SST chip) then you most likely wont be getting the key off that drive easily either. You'll have to repair that mess first, which most likely will also restore the drive to working order and then there's no need to replace it, or remove the chip and extract the key with an external programmer, which is a bigger mess than what you're already into and if it's damaged more then it may be lost forever.

PM me if you're in te US, I may be able to get your drive going again or at least get the key from it for ya. There are others on the board as well that can do it if you're located elsewhere too. No offense, but I don't think ya should be laying the iron to it any more then ya already have. wink.gif
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2007, 03:49:00 PM »

4 ways to do it, best would be to use the Xecuter or Xeno adapter (most expensive too) so as to not mess anything up more than where you're at now. There's also Slax, 2 Wire trick and Hotswap, all of these are detailed in Textbook's guide.

There's still no guarantee that will work, if that SST chip is screwed up then there's a good chance you wont be able to dump the FW or even get it detected if it even goes into ModeB.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2007, 02:50:00 PM »

http://eu.mod-chip.com/all_360.php

Haven't tried it myself but I don't think you can just swap it for a new drive. It says it keeps the original firmware intact and boots from a different firmware. It does not say that it inputs it's own ID. I believe that it just uses this ID in combination with the modchip's firmware. I wouldn't put my money on it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2007, 02:57:00 PM »

I'll bet that he extracts the original firmware from your old drive first. If they had figured out how to extract the ID from the motherboard it would probably in one of the pinned threads on this forum. Perhaps the modchip has that ability but I don't see it in the features.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2007, 05:24:00 PM »

QUOTE(DrJeckyll @ May 23 2007, 11:33 PM) View Post

I'll bet that he extracts the original firmware from your old drive first. If they had figured out how to extract the ID from the motherboard it would probably in one of the pinned threads on this forum. Perhaps the modchip has that ability but I don't see it in the features.

I already told him the drive is completely dead.
He asked me about a few things about the drive, and also he told me the drive is dead.
He said he still can fix the xbox using a different drive in combination with that modchip.
He also said he already did it a couple of times, and that I can stop by at his place, so he can show me that he can fix it the way he said to me.

I don't have enough money for it, so I'll wait if I have the money for it, than I will see if he can fix it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2007, 03:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(jvsjmedia.nl @ May 10 2007, 11:38 PM) View Post

Thank you very much for your reply.
I do have a Hitachi drive, AND I have a SATA cable, and also a empty SATA port on my Motherboard.

The chip that broke:

http://www.xeno-360....all/hitachi.jpg

On the bottom of this diagram you can see the chip, that chip is EXTREMELY small, and 1 or 2 legs are loose I think.
I can see it too clear.

But as it seems that I have the needed stuff to be able to read the FW from the drive, I only need FWToolBox to make a ORIG.bin file?
So I can write that file back to the Samsung drive?


Isn't that chip located on the motherboard?
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2007, 06:32:00 AM »

You can manually swap the drives and the drive ID's you don't need a special modchip.

But if your friend can do it go for it. No use getting stuck over a dead drive.
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