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SnufftheCrimeDog

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« Reply #105 on: May 03, 2007, 01:11:00 PM »

OK lets clear something up shall we. If your system boots into green lights, and then after about 3 minutes goes into 2 red lights or overheating then THAT is overheating. If your system boots into 2 red lights or cant get past the dashboard without getting 2 red lights THIS IS NOT OVERHEATING, this is a bad connection with either the CPU or GPU heatsink and the CPU or GPU die.
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Bravoexo

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« Reply #106 on: May 03, 2007, 03:55:00 PM »

QUOTE(SnufftheCrimeDog @ May 3 2007, 08:47 PM) View Post

OK lets clear something up shall we. If your system boots into green lights, and then after about 3 minutes goes into 2 red lights or overheating then THAT is overheating. If your system boots into 2 red lights or cant get past the dashboard without getting 2 red lights THIS IS NOT OVERHEATING, this is a bad connection with either the CPU or GPU heatsink and the CPU or GPU die.


That's also overheating, right?  It just happens near instantaneously.  (Good thing the xbox doesn't die from loss of contact with the hs, both even.)
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« Reply #107 on: May 03, 2007, 04:06:00 PM »

QUOTE(blankaz @ May 3 2007, 07:14 PM) View Post

Hey guys i just did the tutorial .. reached to the final step, turned on the 360 and boom 2 lights of overheating appear right after i turn on the console , any ideas ?


pull out the HS again, and see how much coverage are you getting with them.
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« Reply #108 on: May 03, 2007, 08:29:00 PM »

sorry but i had to ask the tutorial was well written good job guys.  the more i read the more i felt this was a job for the pro"s.  are you providing this service for huys like me who dont want to take the chance of trying this and have an experience person do it for them.  and if so how much would it cost?  if i am asking in the wrong forum sorry but i really would like to know.  thanks
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« Reply #109 on: May 03, 2007, 08:32:00 PM »

first, hats off to RBJ, thanks for thinking outside the box.

second, I'm terrible at following directions, I messed up the washer installation and washer count on the heatsink re-install, measure once cut twice - scratch head.  I then, completely ignored TIM, hey - just scrape it off the top and re-use, uuuuuhhhh - sorry pal try again, 2 red=used heat sink paste. last but not least, polish them till you can see your caffeine stained teeth and polish a alittle more.  If I ever see RBJ, I'm the guy with all the teeth. biggrin.gif

Now don't yell at me, I only bolted up the main GPU, after reading the thread, I did a teardown, exposed the inside, and booted with pressure on the tall HS, I hadn't seen my dashboard in like 9 month's, I just about pissed, I decided to do the mod to just the one side, I've been running for 2 days, played GOW for the first time on LIVE with my Dad in FL.  Thanks again RBJ

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« Reply #110 on: May 03, 2007, 10:19:00 PM »

I got a proper fix done by bojngles. It has run perfect for the last few months with heavy ammounts of GOW gameplay. So I heard a little bit about the x-clap replacement. Figured, hey I could use a little extra insurance right. You know just in case. Well I went to Home Depot today and followed RBJ's method. First time plugging it in the fans would spin on for a second then stop. So I opened it back up plugged it in and it booted. Sweet right? Assemble everything plug it into my tv and within 1 minute it freezes up. I am back where I started when I got this god forsaken beast. So I tightened down the CPU and GPU heastinks. Then i had the same problem. Backed them off and now it powers up and brings me to the dashboard and whatnot. I am running the system open durring this testing. After not even 1 minute the fans are blaring at high speed. So from what I understand my reflow job is still good. If i get heat to the heatsinks then thats not so bad. Now I guess I need to work on a way to get this baby cold as ice. Correct me if I am wrong but tightening the bolts wouldnt make any difference in the heat output. As long as they are connected the heat will flow. I am thinking this could be because of the thermal paste I used. I got it with an Iceburq 4 pro for my origional xbox. I will go get some Artic Silver 5 tomorrow and post my results.

EDIT: I have it running GOW right now. I will post the ammount of time taken before it freezes.
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coldasice

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« Reply #111 on: May 04, 2007, 02:10:00 AM »

Ran for 4 minutes with the case on. Hasn't frozen for 3 hours and still going with the case off. Thinking a fan upgrade is in order.

EDIT: Grammar
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« Reply #112 on: May 04, 2007, 02:04:00 PM »

Dumb question, when you tight the screws do you use some tool or just doing it by hand ? i´m wondering if is enough...  uhh.gif
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« Reply #113 on: May 04, 2007, 03:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(booker @ May 4 2007, 04:40 PM) *

Dumb question, when you tight the screws do you use some tool or just doing it by hand ? i´m wondering if is enough...  uhh.gif


Use a correct sized socket wrench to get them tight, I used a screwdriver socket type-thing so I got them nice and tight so they wont move, been playing for almost a month and a half now
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« Reply #114 on: May 04, 2007, 04:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(SnufftheCrimeDog @ May 4 2007, 10:46 PM) View Post

Use a correct sized socket wrench to get them tight, I used a screwdriver socket type-thing so I got them nice and tight so they wont move, been playing for almost a month and a half now


Thanks SnufftheCrimeDog, helping me.. as usual smile.gif

1.5 month.. wow...  ohmy.gif
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« Reply #115 on: May 05, 2007, 12:42:00 AM »

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Thanks SnufftheCrimeDog, helping me.. as usual smile.gif

1.5 month.. wow...  ohmy.gif



just doing the x-clamp is not enough. do a fan mod. as well to install additional fan to cool down the "monster" ...
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« Reply #116 on: May 05, 2007, 01:17:00 AM »

QUOTE(blankaz @ May 3 2007, 01:14 PM) View Post

Hey guys i just did the tutorial .. reached to the final step, turned on the 360 and boom 2 lights of overheating appear right after i turn on the console , any ideas ?



one of yoru heatsinks isn't making good contact.

Underneath the heatsink, did you put 2 or 3 washers? The tutorial calls for 3. But a number of people have noticed that 3 is too many and causes the heatsink to rest on the washers and not the die. Remove one washer on all corners. So theres 2 washers between the motherboard and heatsink on each bolt.
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« Reply #117 on: May 05, 2007, 02:00:00 AM »

I've done two consoles now and both work great... Thank you. I just wondered why the first one needed 3 washers and the second only needed 2 huh.gif I know it said this might be the case in the tutorial but i want to know why. Surely all 360 mobos are the EXACT same size. This only leaves the washers as the possible culprit, but then again i'd imagine these too are all the same size. Anyone know?
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« Reply #118 on: May 05, 2007, 02:34:00 AM »

received my ebay 3rlod box today, shes an 0102, which is good news, i was expecting some unknown never heard of error, that would be just my luck laugh.gif

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ok guys, any ideas.

3 washers, no cantact with die, so havnt tried it.
2 washers, 3rlod, 0102
1 washer, 3rlod, 0020

back to 2 washers and 0102

have tried various tightening and loosening combinations with no luck, with the 1 washer the bolts were so tight i feared for the mobo/die

2nd edit: i let her heat up with no fans/fanshroud for a few minutes until the heatsinks were HOT (and i mean burning) then i shut her off and tightened the screws a half turn. after that she booted fine. I fear this has only temporarily fixed it so i will report back after some testing.
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« Reply #119 on: May 05, 2007, 07:42:00 AM »

ok ive got a weired problem now with my 360?


i origanally done RBJtech's Method .

360 worked ok for about 3 days then back to 3 rings of death however it dont go to 3 rings straight away like 4 seconds normal?

when i first switch it on the green light comes on in middle and says on  for 20 seconds just the single middle middle green led no others, IPB Image






then after 20 seconds goes to 3 rings of death.

IPB Image

i have applyed new arctic silver too?

weired how it hangs on single green led for like 20 seconds untill 3 rol?
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