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[ElDom]

Tried it, no go.
Apparently a dead cap, how do I know which one?

[lawdawg0931]

QUOTE(ElDom @ Apr 28 2007, 07:42 PM)

Tried it, no go.
Apparently a dead cap, how do I know which one?

Give a little bit more info than that....Tried what?, what happened (red lights, freezing). How did you determine it was a dead cap?

[booker]

QUOTE(DaniloMQ @ Apr 28 2007, 11:28 PM)

This is the official link of mine topic

http://forum.jogos.u...c.php?t=1174425

you can find the link to the PacoFREEZE (hell yeah, i named my mod lol) in the first post

but rest assured that i will post a english tutorial here

pacote,
a few questions..

how high are those washers you are using.. and how many did u used?

nice post by the way

[FrostyTheSnowman]

SUCCESS!

Well, success with one 3RL machine that belonged to a friend, and I also did it to my own (which already worked properly) just for good measure.

I did, however, knock off a small capacitor on top of the GPU, but the XBOX 360 still works fine. I'm willing to bet that all the capacitor did was filter one of the data lines, which isn't a huge deal on just one data line.

Here's the capacitor I broke: (circled in red)



So basically, I just made one data line on the GPU 'dirty', and might be getting a small amount of noise. But, I can't see any difference visually (and believe me, i've looked), so i'm not really going to worry about it.

I do however want to note though that the 12v fan mod is EXTREMELY loud, regardless of what anyone says. IT IS LOUD. However, it does do a great job of cooling the 360, so i'm going to leave it on.  

I recommend that ANYONE with an XBOX 360 do this mod just as preventive maintenance, as the original X-clamps suck at cooling, and are even worse to work with...

Thanks for the great tutorial lawdawg0931!!!  

[DaniloMQ]

QUOTE(booker @ Apr 29 2007, 07:57 AM)

pacote,
a few questions..

how high are those washers you are using.. and how many did u used?

nice post by the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Used one on each side

oh, and this is the tutorial in english (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=600414

[booker]

ok.. after 3 days..i can say i have a working 360.. (knocking wood). I played thursday (2hs), friday(6hs) and saturday (4hs)...

On the other hand i´m not sure what it fix my 360. Because after i did the x Clamp replacement, i also did the Towel trick.

So the question is...  I may be experiencing the temporary fix from the towel trick or this have to be the "promising" x clamp fix. ??

What do you think?

On the other hand, i believe the Towel trick was needed to sold, those already broken/loose solderings wich gave me the 3rls and the 0102 code and the X clamp should avoid these soldering to break again. (i tried the overheating fix from the tutorial but those 2 min wasn´t enough)

i´m correct? Is the the idea/concept ?

if i did the X-clamp correctly i "shouldn´t" get loose solders again, i´m correct?

This post has been edited by booker: Apr 29 2007, 10:04 AM

[Bravoexo]

Decided to do that X-clamp removal system today.

Used 5/12's metric hex screws (nut/bolt, but used bolt part).

(IMG:http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2140/mg6694np9.jpg)

And some nylon washers.

(IMG:http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8854/mg6695vi0.jpg)

Here's the deviation to the normal plan.  Make the nylon washers brace up against the board, so no matter how much I torque these screws, the board will stay level.

(IMG:http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3135/mg6703jm3.jpg)

Another look

(IMG:http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3821/mg6704hy0.jpg)


** The only problem I have is I can't find the damn AS5 stick of mine.  So I got stuck with some old white stuff, and that only lasted for about 10 minutes before the box overheats...  I'll refine this one I guess.  (didn't need to modify the GPU HS at all with this. so that might be a problem too. )

[delcano]

Hi! Yesterday out of desperation (and warranty), I tried this method to fix the 3 red lights. Oddly enough looks like I didn't screw up and it works! However, I also put a Whisper Fan and whereas before the ·LOD the GPU used to be at 54-55 tops, now it's at 59-60.
   What can cause that? Not enough thermal paste? Badly placed GPU temperature sensor wire? And can I keep going with those figures or am I risking another 3 LOD?

Thanks!

[lawdawg0931]

QUOTE(delcano @ Apr 29 2007, 08:02 AM)

Hi! Yesterday out of desperation (and warranty), I tried this method to fix the 3 red lights. Oddly enough looks like I didn't screw up and it works! However, I also put a Whisper Fan and whereas before the ·LOD the GPU used to be at 54-55 tops, now it's at 59-60.
   What can cause that? Not enough thermal paste? Badly placed GPU temperature sensor wire? And can I keep going with those figures or am I risking another 3 LOD?

Thanks!

First thing I would do is check the imprint of the AS5, making sure it is spreading it completely when tightening down. Second is to do some of the cooling mods from RBJTech

@Bravoexo
I wouldn't deviate from the tutorial (other than the # of washers just on top of the mobo) as measurements have been checked & rechecked - which is CRITICALLY important.

[booker]

QUOTE(booker @ Apr 29 2007, 09:57 AM)

ok.. after 3 days..i can say i have a working 360.. (knocking wood). I played thursday (2hs), friday(6hs) and saturday (4hs)...

On the other hand i´m not sure what it fix my 360. Because after i did the x Clamp replacement, i also did the Towel trick.

So the question is...  I may be experiencing the temporary fix from the towel trick or this have to be the "promising" x clamp fix. ??

What do you think?

On the other hand, i believe the Towel trick was needed to sold, those already broken/loose solderings wich gave me the 3rls and the 0102 code and the X clamp should avoid these soldering to break again. (i tried the overheating fix from the tutorial but those 2 min wasn´t enough)

i´m correct? Is the the idea/concept ?

if i did the X-clamp correctly i "shouldn´t" get loose solders again, i´m correct?

anyone can answer my question... i´m still in the fence here.. should i be happy or it may be the towel temp fix?

[ElDom]

QUOTE(lawdawg0931 @ Apr 29 2007, 04:11 AM)

Give a little bit more info than that....Tried what?, what happened (red lights, freezing). How did you determine it was a dead cap?

I did the replacement, but still, as soon as I hit the power button, Mr. 3 RLoD visits me.

[jameswalter]

QUOTE(ElDom @ Apr 29 2007, 02:00 PM)

I did the replacement, but still, as soon as I hit the power button, Mr. 3 RLoD visits me.

Did you overheat the board to reflow the solder joints that caused the problems in the first place?  Read the whole tutorial.  I actually used the towel method to get the thing hot enough.  Mine has been going for 3+ weeks now.

[booker]

QUOTE(jameswalter @ Apr 29 2007, 10:26 PM)

Did you overheat the board to reflow the solder joints that caused the problems in the first place?  Read the whole tutorial.  I actually used the towel method to get the thing hot enough.  Mine has been going for 3+ weeks now.

exaclty.. i had to do the same thing...i tried with the 2 min overheating but it wasn´t enough. Then i did the towel trick and is working.. only 4 days so far.. but before i wasn´t able to play longer than 5 min without freezing or getting the 3ls.

[SnufftheCrimeDog]

QUOTE(booker @ Apr 29 2007, 09:57 AM) *

ok.. after 3 days..i can say i have a working 360.. (knocking wood). I played thursday (2hs), friday(6hs) and saturday (4hs)...

On the other hand i´m not sure what it fix my 360. Because after i did the x Clamp replacement, i also did the Towel trick.

So the question is... I may be experiencing the temporary fix from the towel trick or this have to be the "promising" x clamp fix. ??

What do you think?

On the other hand, i believe the Towel trick was needed to sold, those already broken/loose solderings wich gave me the 3rls and the 0102 code and the X clamp should avoid these soldering to break again. (i tried the overheating fix from the tutorial but those 2 min wasn´t enough)

i´m correct? Is the the idea/concept ?

if i did the X-clamp correctly i "shouldn´t" get loose solders again, i´m correct?

QUOTE(booker @ Apr 29 2007, 03:50 PM)

anyone can answer my question... i´m still in the fence here.. should i be happy or it may be the towel temp fix?

The towel trick is very very temporary, I personally have never used it, but the way it works is warms up the solder, but because you didnt actually melt the solder,it will just become loose again in a few days of hardcore gaming. The towel trick will never work for more then a week. So if your systems passes a weeks test then I give it the thumbs up.

[booker]

QUOTE(SnufftheCrimeDog @ Apr 30 2007, 12:04 AM)

QUOTE(booker @ Apr 29 2007, 09:57 AM) *

ok.. after 3 days..i can say i have a working 360.. (knocking wood). I played thursday (2hs), friday(6hs) and saturday (4hs)...

On the other hand i´m not sure what it fix my 360. Because after i did the x Clamp replacement, i also did the Towel trick.

So the question is... I may be experiencing the temporary fix from the towel trick or this have to be the "promising" x clamp fix. ??

What do you think?

On the other hand, i believe the Towel trick was needed to sold, those already broken/loose solderings wich gave me the 3rls and the 0102 code and the X clamp should avoid these soldering to break again. (i tried the overheating fix from the tutorial but those 2 min wasn´t enough)

i´m correct? Is the the idea/concept ?

if i did the X-clamp correctly i "shouldn´t" get loose solders again, i´m correct?
The towel trick is very very temporary, I personally have never used it, but the way it works is warms up the solder, but because you didnt actually melt the solder,it will just become loose again in a few days of hardcore gaming. The towel trick will never work for more then a week. So if your systems passes a weeks test then I give it the thumbs up.

thanks,
Hmmm i don´t think i can follow.

So how i´m suppouse to get those solders melt ? I did the "overheating" technique from Dawg tutorial but it wasn´t enough... since i was still getting the 3rl and freezing. after x clamp and overheating technique.

Then i did the towel trick and also i tighten the bolts very tight... i guess they weren´t tight enough before. Since then my system have been working without a problem for 4 days.. and running.

What should be the right "step" to melt the solders instead of warms the soldering? (remember the 2 min overheating from the tutorial didn´t work on my case).

This post has been edited by booker: Apr 30 2007, 02:07 AM