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[boomstick777]

I really hope that this is a step in the right direction for a permanent fix. Some clip on copper heatsinks would be awesome. Wanna see some third party support making alternate xbox360 heatsinks and ram coolers/support.

There must be a market for this type of thing with the next gen ultra hot hardware...

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As a total guess I'd say this isn't a RAM issue but rather it flexes the motherboard upwards and so solves the problem of the board warping. The board can't warp back because the rubber stops in moving downwards and supports the board. If you let your machine heat up first so that the solder reflows then perhaps this might work just as well as various clamping methods. I imagine it would make the RAM get a lot hotter though.

I know the CPU/GPU is the issue on the ones I have fixed as you can actually see the broken connections. That isn't to say that all 360s fail because of that, but that perhaps this method fixes the same problem (by flexing the board back) while just appearing to be related to the RAM.

At the very least, I'd use thermal pads instead of rubber.

I think dokworm has got a good point maybe there is no fault with the ram as such just the warping of the motherboard my red lights didnt go away straight after the 3 penny trick, I had to heat up the board for a while then got green lights and booted fine.

So maybe now the board is ok again and cannot warp back due to the pennys...

[Daveychan]

Just wanted to make a quick post to show my appreciation for all of the good information and support here!

I got the three rings of death and read every one of these pages. Decided to try the most risk-free methods and did both the "eraser trick" and the "toothpick trick". I put my 360 back together and voila! .. all is happy and well. I played Halo2 Live for an hour or so and then tested out a couple of other games for a bit... hopefully the fix is here to stay!

Cheers again for all the good support!

[nukeme]

Make sure you get a solid eraser because i tried one other week and the eraser broke down under the pressure and heat after a week or 2 so had to do the fix again with a different make of eraser, the new eraser is still holding.

[srusli]

QUOTE(nukeme @ Jun 11 2007, 09:43 AM)

Make sure you get a solid eraser because i tried one other week and the eraser broke down under the pressure and heat after a week or 2 so had to do the fix again with a different make of eraser, the new eraser is still holding.

What type of eraser broke down under the pressure? is it a common rubber eraser ? thought that those would be able to withstand heat to quite a high degree.... if indeed that it broke, really need to find a good heat-resistant rubber eraser and if possible finding a thermally conductive material )

I am thinking to mold out some plastic parts made outta some thermally conductive thermoplastics or some thermosets that can help support the CPU/GPU legs under the board. Thing is that the thickness is different from machine to machine and could not be standardized to a particular height...

[entra6]

firs sorry for my languge i am not good in english : ok i fixed my xbox 360 with ereser its working now for 1 week that good for me ok :
1- i but a rubber ereser in the bottom ram
2- i but a cooper heatsink over the GPU ram
3- i leave the top case open.
4- i add one fan over the cpu heatsink.

that it now the xbox 360 are not hot at all. thanks    

[ricx2001]

I really don't understand what my north american brothers don't undertood.

Well, it work so:

The memory units are really close of a awesome 3-core processor and a excelent GPU. So, it's obvios that the temperature in that area will go high.

With the high temperatures the material used to (alguém que fala português traduz ai pros caras a palavra SOLDA, pois eu esqueci!!! hehehe) SOLDAR the memory will dilatate (se os caras não entenderem, dilatar).

The memory, with his own weight, whi be pushed down, in some time, the contact between memory and mobo will be interrupted, then... 3RL.

The eraser will mantain the memory unit in contact with the motherboard, this is the trick!!! Because this the trick works, its nothing about memory temperature, but CPU and GPU. But, if anyone could use a heatsink instead of a eraser, cool, it will do the trick and help with the temperature problem.

Anyone can try this trick... will work, and why will work? It's just above!!

Abraços ao colegas brasileiros...

Cheers!

[nukeme]

update to the other post, well the new rubber eraser fixed the 360 for a 2 weeks and again it broke down under the heat and pressure.
 So i've tried something else, a shoe sole alot harder rubber, i cut 4 squares same as the rubber eraser shapes.
Hope this is third time lucky.

[Protonus]

I can't fathom why this is still getting bumped.  so here I'll say it in big font since people on this board can't seem to think for themselves:
 
 DON'T USE THIS METHOD!

If I were moderator on this site I would lock this thread.  It's moronic that it's still around and people are still doing it.  As many others have stated you are thermally insulating your ram from the case which WILL shorten it's life. The only reason this "fix" works is you are flexing the board for better electrical contact.  This is a temporary solution at best and could very well WORSEN the problem longterm.

Replace the X-clamps per RJBTech's method (it's the best), and replace your thermal compound on the CPU and GPU heatsinks, and call it a friggen day.  These "ghetto" mods only serve to hurt the community in the long run.

[gasclown]

lol^ I agree that using rubber could possibly damage the ram in the longterm - but the fix idea is good (just need to not use erasors - see page 12 of this thread for a better version of this very fix).

However, saying that this fix will cause damage 'to the scene' is even more ridiculous than your massive font size.

You're just a flamer - there is nothing 'moronic' about getting your dead 360 to come back from the dead

[CarbonR]

and that's why he's banned lol, but i used the penny fix and installed 2 case fans (50mm for the cpu heatsink and 60mm for the case) along with talismoon fans

[nukeme]

well another update to my post and its been 2 months now and my 360 is still working after the rubber fix nice

[masterdasein]

hey man, this fix is really work??? only with eraser and glue??? there is people here who have worked to him???

[nukeme]

yes this fix does work but i used some other rubber instead of eraser rubber, i tried eraser twice and it broke down under the heat and pressure.
So i used shoe sole rubber, you can buy replacement shoe soles so i got one of those i cut the shapes out of the sole and used that and its been working fine for 2 months now.

[neosparq]

I just finished a variation on this (the 3 penny wrapped in electrical tape), and here are my results:


- I glued down the pennies and reassembled the system, securely tightening all screws
- first boot after the pennies, 3 lights
- I re-read the guide I was using, and it said to NOT put the 8 black X-Clamp screws back on
- I disassembled again and removed the black screws
- Upon booting the 2nd time, I got 1 and 3 red lights (which indicates overheating)
- I assumed that the overheating was from the missing screws, so I replaced the screws again, but this time left them fairly loose
- I booted again, and got the XBOX Dashboard.  The fan sounds like a jet engine (probably because it's still running a bit hot) but at least I'm up and running.  Played about 20 mins of Blue Dragon, and will leave it on all night to see if it holds up.

Afterwards, I intent to tighten the black screws a bit more to see if I can reduce the fan speed but keep things 3-ring free.


Thanks to all who posted their suggestions.




SparQy.

[dazzler1234]

Hey guys I am from Pakistan and had my 360 3RLOD for sometime. Had great difficulty finding the screws and AS5 to perform the X-Clamp replacement. Tried the eraser mod tonight and it booted right up. Played Darkness for sometime before it gave an Overheat error (2 Red lights). Opened the case and put in an extra fan on top and just finished a 2 hour non-stop session of Darkness without any errors.

Well, apparently it works.