Topic: New To 360 But Not Xbox.... (Read 84 times)

ScrewinGates · « **on:** February 27, 2007, 03:52:00 PM »

Hi guys.I've been modding xbox 1's for a while now but done nothing to a 360.I didn't even own one till about a week ago when a couple buddies gave me 2 broke consoles.One had the 3 rings and the othere the dude ripped out the dvd tray.So i took the good motherboard and the good dvd and assembled thinking i just built a 360 out of junk.It played dvds fine but no 360 or original xbox games.I was determined to figure it out so i hit the forums.To my surprise i read that the eeprom on the 360 is built on the dvd drive but could be removed and flashed to the other drive(both sammy 25's).My computer is an ancient peice of shit so no sata ports available.Then i got the bright idea of switching the chips on the drives...it worked!Now i have a free xbox 360.Other than the purpose of bragging about my good fortune,i am posting this in case it can help someone else out.switching the chip is very easy to do but i assume your replacement drive would have to be the same as the broke one.Happy Modding!

ScrewinGates

RDC · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:06:00 PM »

Yes that only works if the drives are the same. You couldn't do that between a Samsung and a Hitachi. The "key" can be extracted from one drive and patched to another one though, as well as spoofing the FW so the 360 still "thinks" it has the same version drive in it, since switching versions can throw an error.

Since both of yours were the ms25, I wonder why you didn't just swap the enitre logic board and be done with it? just bored and looking for something to solder on? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

ScrewinGates · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:34:00 PM »

my mistake ...thats what i did i changed the whole board (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

RDC · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:59:00 PM »

Swapping just the SST chip would have done the same thing though, but been quite a delicate and pointless job seeing that both boards are in good working shape. Enjoy the thing while it lasts, ya may have 2 with the 3 Red Lights sooner or later. Might want to do some cooling upgrades on it now and get it over with before it's too late for them to do any real good.

ScrewinGates · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2007, 05:24:00 PM »

yea im gonna order some tailsmoon fans this week and i was considering doing the theremal paste upgrade.any other suggestions?

RDC · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2007, 08:47:00 PM »

The Talismoon are a good idea, I'd run them at 7v as well instead of off the stock 5v that is thermally controlled, but by the time it speeds the fans up it's about to late. You can run them at 12v if you want, and if you can stand the noise I'd run them at 12v, 7v at the least though. I'd for SURE do the Fan Shroud Mod. I'd also vent the top of the case where it looks like M$ itended to from the start. Take the top off and flip it upside down you'll see the vent holes are in the metal shielding, but not the case. Drilling those out, doesn't ahve to be holes that big, will get a good bit more cool air in there.

Honestly, if you've never had the board out of the cage, I wouldn't upgrade the thermal paste. It IS a good idea and better paste can drop the temps a tad (1-4 degrees or so) but by doing that you are actually placing more stress on the GPU/CPU solder joints since removing and reinstalling the X-clamps are a right PITA it's technically not worth it. All that board flexing isn't good for the thing when it does it on it's own from the heat, and the bending that will happen upgrading the paste is just one thng ya really don't need. If you upgrade the fans, up the voltage to them a little bit, do the fan shroud mod and vent the case on top you should be in decent shape, but it's no 100% guarantee the 360 doesn't have plans to take a dump sometime in the future. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

ScrewinGates · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2007, 09:15:00 PM »

dudes..i took the one i had with 3 red lights and did the towel trick to it and it worked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) so now all i need is a sammy m25 drive.if any ones got one pm me.it can have a bad flash or whatever cause im gonna replace the chip with the one i got.

RDC · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2007, 02:24:00 AM »

Don't expect that to be a permanent "fix" for it though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Look or post in the 360 BST, pretty sure you'll find a bricked ms25/ms28 sooner or later. They're the same drive, just different firmwares, and since you'll be swapping boards anyway it makes no difference at all which ya get.

ScrewinGates · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2007, 01:36:00 PM »

now with the rol one should i attempt the thermal paste idea?

RDC · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2007, 01:59:00 PM »

It may do more bad than good. Taking it apart now and stuffing it all back together would most likely just cause the 3RLOD to come right back, which sorry to say, is going to happen sooner or later anyway no matter what "fix" you try on it. The heat makes the board flex a tiny bit, that pulls the already crappy solder joints away from the GPU/CPU and you get errors. The stress of taking it apart and putting it back together doesn't help that one bit at all. For a few degrees difference, it's not really worth it. Again I'd just do the same things to it and try and keep it in a well ventilated cool (as possible) enviroment, may last a week, may last a year, really hard to pinpoint, but I'd bet the farm it'll 3RLOD again sooner or later on ya.

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