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[SSChevy2001]

QUOTE(mzone @ Apr 9 2007, 10:27 PM)

what makes me curious is how the hot air reflow works first couple of times then after doesent seem to fix the ring of death 2 nd or 3rd time around ?

is it just me or anyone else found this strange?

I wouldn't suggest heating the mb multiple times, as it really isn't fixing the problem and it's will eventually lead to mb failure.  The pressure on the mb caused from the X-Clamp is the problem.  That's why you keep getting the ROL even after the Heat Gun trick. The only way to fix the problem is to replace the X-Clamp mounts.  You could try like I did to just remove the 8 screws for the X-Clamps.  It will reduce some of the pressure.

[mzone]

yeah im not doing the hot air again, as it dont seem to be working anymore and just hope i aint killed the mobo i dont think theres a sign to say if the mobo is fooked but i still get error 0102 i tryed leaving the small back screws off.

not sure whever to give the erasure trick a go or the x clamp trick, as surely the hot air reflow would of refixed it even for a few mins

[SSChevy2001]

I tried the eraser trick with no luck, the erasers just break in half in the metal grooves.  Also it just causes more board bending, and adds more heat to the memory chips.  Go with the X clamp trick.

[Mrcon]

can someone state the bolts needed when i get rid of the x clamps???

[DuBob4432]

QUOTE(RBJTech @ Mar 23 2007, 04:08 PM)

Slighly off topic .. but has anyone ever produced any scientific evidence that 'lapping' a heatsink actually provides any better heat transfer ?  I was under the impression that any slight differences on the surface would be taken up by the paste - the primary reason for it in the first place ?  Just interested, I've never done it ... could never see the need.

RBJTech -

it really depends on the surface you are starting with.  in the extreme o/c community of computers, lapping is assumed unless you get a hs that has a near mirror finish, which some of the better hs do come from the factory with.

also, your site that shows the shroud mod  - the pics are no longer there.  is there another link as i want to modify my 09/06 unit before there becomes any issue...

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(mzone @ Apr 11 2007, 12:50 AM)

not sure whever to give the erasure trick a go or the x clamp trick, as surely the hot air reflow would of refixed it even for a few mins

definitely go the x-clamp way. the erasers i dont think will fix your problem

[mzone]

ok i have 2 360s here with 3 rings of light.

im gona try the bolt heat sink trick today.

UK
 
     
Machine Screws (4mm x 20mm) + Nuts (3mm thick)
           
Hex Nut – 4mm (3mm thick)   
     
Spring Washer (4mm)   AVF-065088
   
Flat Washer (4mm) – 0.71mm thick
     
Nylon Lock Nut (4mm)   


im just curious looking at the parts list needed regarding the Hex Nut – 4mm 1 packet of 7 required?

can i ask where these hex nuts go? as i thought they go on heatsinks but this would make it 8 thats needed , 4 for each heatsink, however theres only 7 in 1 packet? and it says only 1 packet of 7 is needed.

also are your guys 360s still working ok?

[RBJTech]

QUOTE(mzone @ Apr 11 2007, 04:49 PM)

ok i have 2 360s here with 3 rings of light.

im gona try the bolt heat sink track today.

UK
 
     
Machine Screws (4mm x 20mm) + Nuts (3mm thick)
           
Hex Nut – 4mm (3mm thick)   
     
Spring Washer (4mm)   AVF-065088
   
Flat Washer (4mm) – 0.71mm thick
     
Nylon Lock Nut (4mm)   
im just curious looking at the parts list needed regarding the Hex Nut – 4mm 1 packet of 7 required?

can i ask where these hex nuts go? as i thought they go on heatsinks but this would make it 8 thats needed , 4 for each heatsink, however theres only 7 in 1 packet? and it says only 1 packet of 7 is needed.

also are your guys 360s still working ok?

Yep - still going strong.

Actually you are correct - my mistake.  The plan was originally to also have a nut holding down the board (in addition to the nylon lock nut..) as well but there was not enough room inbetween the board and the heatsink for a 3mm deep nut,  so I opted for the 3 washers instead.  Therefore, you do not need the extra pack of nuts (my original intention was to use one of the 2 spare nuts from the bolt pack to make up the 8 required   ...)

I'll update my tutorial - well spotted ...

[poisonousjuice]

QUOTE(mzone @ Apr 11 2007, 04:49 PM)

ok i have 2 360s here with 3 rings of light.

im gona try the bolt heat sink trick today.

UK
 
     
Machine Screws (4mm x 20mm) + Nuts (3mm thick)
           
Hex Nut – 4mm (3mm thick)   
     
Spring Washer (4mm)   AVF-065088
   
Flat Washer (4mm) – 0.71mm thick
     
Nylon Lock Nut (4mm)   
im just curious looking at the parts list needed regarding the Hex Nut – 4mm 1 packet of 7 required?

can i ask where these hex nuts go? as i thought they go on heatsinks but this would make it 8 thats needed , 4 for each heatsink, however theres only 7 in 1 packet? and it says only 1 packet of 7 is needed.

also are your guys 360s still working ok?

i'm not sure where you got the 1 pack of 7 needed from but yes you definately need 8 hex nuts. and the 2 360s i fixed are still going strong for a week of extensive use.

[mzone]

the 1 pack of 7 needed was in the parts list mate, but RBJTech has now updated it concidering you dont need them.

im gona give this ago today as my other 2 360s have gone down last night after heat gun worked ok for 2 weeks.

will update later how i get on.

im gona buy a 4mm drill bit too, do u def need the 5mm bit, as if i do i might as well pick on of the 5mm metal bits  up too.


oh and noticed somethink about the thermal pads will i need these too? or can i just apply some artic silver on mem chips instead.

[RBJTech]

QUOTE(mzone @ Apr 11 2007, 05:12 PM)

the 1 pack of 7 needed was in the parts list mate, but RBJTech has now updated it concidering you dont need them.

im gona give this ago today as my other 2 360s have gone down last night after heat gun worked ok for 2 weeks.

will update later how i get on.

im gona buy a 4mm drill bit too, do u def need the 5mm bit, as if i do i might as well pick on of the 5mm metal bits  up too.
oh and noticed somethink about the thermal pads will i need these too? or can i just apply some artic silver on mem chips instead.

..you defo need the 4mm for the case, the 5mm you may be able to get away with - the idea is for the 4mm bolt to easily pass through the drilled 5mm hole in the heatsink - if you leave the h/s threaded, then the bolt may 'catch' on the existing thread when you go to put the heatsinks on.  Give it a go - if they won't go on, then you'll need to drill them to 5mm ...

Thermal pads will not effect the fix in anyway - they are 100% optional ...

[DuBob4432]

RBJTech - could i get the visio template for the shroud?  i can't get it from your site.  also, if you need some hosting room let me know - i can host some pics for you on one of my sites no problem

[RBJTech]

QUOTE(DuBob4432 @ Apr 11 2007, 11:13 PM)

RBJTech - could i get the visio template for the shroud?  i can't get it from your site.  also, if you need some hosting room let me know - i can host some pics for you on one of my sites no problem

Sure - my public doc store should work ...  here

Failing that - I've also dumped it as a ZIP on my web site here ..

Let me know (via PM) which one works as I'm having mixed results atm with people saying the pics are/arn't working ... tks for the kind offer on hosting ..

Use PM as we have gone way off topic ... (apologies mods... back on topic now ..)  

Cheers,

Richard.

[d00k]

I will keep this short and to the point.

360 sititng in corner for past 3 months with 3 ROD as soon as i turned it on. Followed RJB tutorial except that i didnt drill the 5mm holes in the heatsink as i felt was not worth the risk as they both slipped over my screws easily enough. Also my local pc shop had some no brand silver paste, so used that instead of Artic Silver 5.

And the result is i now have a fully functional 360 thats been on about 6 hours now . All I can say is thanks to the ppl on this thread.

[RBJTech]

QUOTE(d00k @ Apr 14 2007, 06:02 PM)

I will keep this short and to the point.

360 sititng in corner for past 3 months with 3 ROD as soon as i turned it on. Followed RJB tutorial except that i didnt drill the 5mm holes in the heatsink as i felt was not worth the risk as they both slipped over my screws easily enough. Also my local pc shop had some no brand silver paste, so used that instead of Artic Silver 5.

And the result is i now have a fully functional 360 thats been on about 6 hours now . All I can say is thanks to the ppl on this thread.

Great news - don't forget to post in the sticky on your success !