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[Heet]

RBJTech thanks for the tut sir!

[ferrari_rulz_02]

QUOTE(Taher @ Apr 3 2007, 07:58 AM)

How can I attach a heat sink to RAM chips ? What glue I can use ?

you can get adhesive thermal paste.

[JanusX88]

I just want to say that I had the 3 ring of death problem everytime i turned on my 360, and i applied the new m5 bolt trick from the tutorial in page 8, and the 360 now works with no problems.  I have tested it several days now and there hasn't been one problem and before it would never boot.  I used EXACTLY what the author suggested from Lowes and some Arctic Silver 5 paste from newegg for like 10 bucks.  I really want to thank everyone that came up with this genius fix as I assure you it does work.

I will say the job was hell, but I was able to do it, I would not recommend this operation if you have no experience with building desktop computers or the like.

[lonedeath]

I have done the Hot Air Gun method now 5 times. 1st time I did it, xbox lasted a week, then with each time I did it, the xbox lasted shorter and shorter.

Gave this a try, everything done to the letter, and now the xbox boots up, gets half way into the boot sequence (the xbox logo at the start) and cuts off, flashes 2 red lights, (both left ones) and i get error 0011.

Anyone any ideas?

Thanks

[SnufftheCrimeDog]

QUOTE(lonedeath @ Apr 7 2007, 01:27 PM)

I have done the Hot Air Gun method now 5 times. 1st time I did it, xbox lasted a week, then with each time I did it, the xbox lasted shorter and shorter.

Gave this a try, everything done to the letter, and now the xbox boots up, gets half way into the boot sequence (the xbox logo at the start) and cuts off, flashes 2 red lights, (both left ones) and i get error 0011.

Anyone any ideas?

Thanks

If your only getting 2 red lights then you xbox 360 is just overheating. Give it time to cool out. Honestly after performing this fix the xbox 360 that you just fixed should be given a day to let everything you just did to it settle. Also check the RAM chips on the bottom of the board and see if there thermal pads on them, if there aren't I would strongly advise buying some. According to the error descriptions 0011 is an overheating error, I know these error codes aren't a 100% accurate, but there pretty close. My ideas for you are 1.) Check that the GPU and CPU heatsinks are each clamped down firmly to there respective chips and 2.) Check for thermal pad on the RAM chips, these get pretty hot as well. I'm by no means a expert, but I deffinetly give these options a whirl. Hope these help, and good luck

[lonedeath]

ok. I have another mobo here I dont have the key for so I removed the RAM sinks from that and put them on, still giving me the 2 red lights  

I'll let it sit overnight and try it again.

thanks for your help, i'll post the results again tomorrow  

[SnufftheCrimeDog]

QUOTE(lonedeath @ Apr 7 2007, 04:05 PM)

ok. I have another mobo here I dont have the key for so I removed the RAM sinks from that and put them on, still giving me the 2 red lights  

I'll let it sit overnight and try it again.

thanks for your help, i'll post the results again tomorrow  

Hmm, letting it sit is probably a good idea, but just to double check you placed  heatsinks over the 4 RAM chips on the bottom of the motherboard, pretty much right under the GPU? If yes then thats good, and finally there also two right next to the GPU chip it doesnt hurt to cover those too. If it doesnt work after all that, I really don't know what to tell ya. I know personally I would feel much better seeing 2 Red lights instead of 3 Red lights. Again I could be talking out of my butt, but I personally would feel that going from 3 lights, which usually means death for your 360, from 2 lights, although not fixed, is a step in the right direction. Again good luck, and hopes this helps.

[SSChevy2001]

Just thought I add my own story.  I had the 3 red lights 0102 0110 only for the first min on startup everytime the console cold booted.  I tried new thermal compound.  I tried the heat gun trick once no luck.  I tried the erase trick no luck, the erasers just broke in half in the metal groove of metal case.  Finally I left the screws out that mount the X-Clamp to the metal case.  No more 3 red lights.  Those screws somehow cause more bend on the X-Clamp.  Really those screws aren't needed so I'm not putting those 8 screws back.  Also I got my GPU and CPU are super cool.  

[RBJTech]

QUOTE(SSChevy2001 @ Apr 8 2007, 03:44 AM)

Just thought I add my own story.  I had the 3 red lights 0102 0110 only for the first min on startup everytime the console cold booted.  I tried new thermal compound.  I tried the heat gun trick once no luck.  I tried the erase trick no luck, the erasers just broke in half in the metal groove of metal case.  Finally I left the screws out that mount the X-Clamp to the metal case.  No more 3 red lights.  Those screws somehow cause more bend on the X-Clamp.  Really those screws aren't needed so I'm not putting those 8 screws back.  Also I got my GPU and CPU are super cool.  

By not screwing the h/s to the case, you are effectively reducing the pressure on the X clamps - so yes that will have a similiar effect that the X clamp replacement posts (sucesses I may add..) are having.

Ps - interesting idea on the GPU fan (with the raised DVD Rom) but I still don't understand where the fan gets it's air 'from' as even with the room for the fan itself, you'll need that space again for air flow.... ?

[SSChevy2001]

QUOTE(RBJTech @ Apr 8 2007, 05:25 AM)

By not screwing the h/s to the case, you are effectively reducing the pressure on the X clamps - so yes that will have a similiar effect that the X clamp replacement posts (sucesses I may add..) are having.

Ps - interesting idea on the GPU fan (with the raised DVD Rom) but I still don't understand where the fan gets it's air 'from' as even with the room for the fan itself, you'll need that space again for air flow.... ?

Thanks, I wanted some direct airflow on the gpu to drop the temps.  Now that the red light job is gone it's time to finish dressing it up.  There is room for air, and while I don't have a tempature gauge.  I can tell you by hand touch the gpu heatsink is cool to the touch.  Also the db are very quiet on these addition fans.
(IMG:http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/SSChevy2001/xbox181.jpg)
I also cut out the back end, maybe I might have over done it just a little.
(IMG:http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c387/SSChevy2001/xboxback.jpg)

[lonedeath]

QUOTE(SnufftheCrimeDog @ Apr 8 2007, 02:08 AM)

Hmm, letting it sit is probably a good idea, but just to double check you placed  heatsinks over the 4 RAM chips on the bottom of the motherboard, pretty much right under the GPU? If yes then thats good, and finally there also two right next to the GPU chip it doesnt hurt to cover those too. If it doesnt work after all that, I really don't know what to tell ya. I know personally I would feel much better seeing 2 Red lights instead of 3 Red lights. Again I could be talking out of my butt, but I personally would feel that going from 3 lights, which usually means death for your 360, from 2 lights, although not fixed, is a step in the right direction. Again good luck, and hopes this helps.

Ok, got it sorted!

I realised the heatsink on the GPU was not even touching the cores!
So I removed a washer from each bolt and now the 2 lights are gone. All working fine again!

[RBJTech]

QUOTE(SSChevy2001 @ Apr 8 2007, 02:11 PM)

Thanks, I wanted some direct airflow on the gpu to drop the temps.  Now that the red light job is gone it's time to finish dressing it up.  There is room for air, and while I don't have a tempature gauge.  I can tell you by hand touch the gpu heatsink is cool to the touch.  Also the db are very quiet on these addition fans.

I also cut out the back end, maybe I might have over done it just a little.

Ah - so you really have raised the DVDRom !  It didn't look that high in the previous pic.  With direct active cooling I totally agree the GPU h/s is cool - I just can't understand why MS gave it such little priority with airflow ...

wrt the backside - what's that bar through the middle for - cut it out !

[SSChevy2001]

QUOTE(RBJTech @ Apr 8 2007, 12:53 PM)

Ah - so you really have raised the DVDRom !  It didn't look that high in the previous pic.  With direct active cooling I totally agree the GPU h/s is cool - I just can't understand why MS gave it such little priority with airflow ...

wrt the backside - what's that bar through the middle for - cut it out ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I was just determine to have direct cooling, and it was alot cheaper than watercooling.  MS just wasn't concerned with GPU cooling and they should of it's a big factor of heat in the console.  Yeah that bar got to go.  Now that my ROL problem is gone I can focus on finish up some things.

[mzone]

i might give this go, looks like the best fix so far for 3rol,

when i first bought my 360 it was 3rol i just applyed some artic silver and it worked for like 6 months no problems,
last week i got the dreaded 3 rol  

so far i have not got this to work again i have tryed the hot air gun 3 times now along with new artic silver compound each time, still get 3 rings of death.


i have 2 360,s with rings of light now other one i need a couple of new caps 16v 1500uf, and other one is one of the lttle yellow ones 4v 820uf caps, as they seemed to melted a bit when i first tried the headgun for 1st time even with tin foil on. so far i have not been able to source these, loked on my local maplins but couldent find them and rs components are only trade.

[mzone]

what makes me curious is how the hot air reflow works first couple of times then after doesent seem to fix the ring of death 2 nd or 3rd time around ?

is it just me or anyone else found this strange?