Topic: Red Lights = Design Flaw (Read 827 times)

RDC · « **Reply #135 on:** March 28, 2007, 03:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(kalon @ Mar 28 2007, 03:17 PM)

Does anyone know the dimensions of these screws or where I can get replacements? Also, am I likely to encounter any issues running the 360 in the interim? It seems to be working fine at the moment, but I don't want to use it if I'm likely to damage something. Thanks.

You don't really need them as the case clips together. Look in the 360 BST section, I'm sure you'll find a few sets in there somewhere.

nekkron99 · « **Reply #136 on:** March 28, 2007, 04:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(RDC @ Mar 28 2007, 03:06 PM)

You don't really need them as the case clips together. Look in the 360 BST section, I'm sure you'll find a few sets in there somewhere.

I concur. The only thing I could see being an issue (though, I highly doubt it) would be having it standing. But RDC is a Xbox god compared to me, so, he probably know a thing or 2.

Heet · « **Reply #137 on:** March 28, 2007, 04:12:00 PM »

Pinned

Tortuga2112 · « **Reply #138 on:** March 28, 2007, 06:29:00 PM »

I just started reading this thread again. seems like a lot of people are having success with this method.enough for the thread to be pinned.

is anyone keeping track how many consoles were brought back to life using this method?
any recurring failure after?

could somebody set up a poll ? anyone else like to see a poll?

it'd be interesting to know which method works best in the long run. heatgun, erasers under memory, removing x-clamps, and any fan modifications etc.

the GPU re-balling thread seems to have lost steam , haven't heard any new success or progress on that front for a little while. I guess that method is a bit to costly for most people to undertake, probably better off buying a new one, unless you're paying $1300 for a console like the guys in brazil(I feel for you guys that have the 3RLOD)

sirsmooth · « **Reply #139 on:** March 29, 2007, 04:40:00 PM »

Rich, how are your temps?
I have done exactly what you have done.
I have done the fan shroud modwith devider...

I have noticed the cpu side of the fan is cooler but the gpu side seems hotter.

I know deffo that the CPU side is cooler but Im not sure if its me thinking the GPU is hotter or the same. without proper kit its hard to tell

RBJTech · « **Reply #140 on:** March 30, 2007, 04:10:00 AM »

QUOTE(sirsmooth @ Mar 29 2007, 11:47 PM)

Rich, how are your temps?
I have done exactly what you have done.
I have done the fan shroud modwith devider...

I have noticed the cpu side of the fan is cooler but the gpu side seems hotter.

I know deffo that the CPU side is cooler but Im not sure if its me thinking the GPU is hotter or the same. without proper kit its hard to tell

Haven't tested the temps yet as I need to take it apart again as I forgot to put back the RAM pads ...

But so far so good - it's had 6 thermal cycles with zero problems when before it would only go twice before crapping out and needed an 'overheat' to fix it ..

Will try and sort this weekend and also do a proper tutorial rather than a set of pics...

Richard.

sirsmooth · « **Reply #141 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:30:00 AM »

Tidy, n1 Rich

I have taken mine apart and made sure the nuts are tightened tightly but not to tight on all 8 bolts.

Seems fine, CPU is deffo cooler, GPU is still baking but stable

RBJTech · « **Reply #142 on:** March 30, 2007, 08:37:00 AM »

.. Full tutorial in all it's glory to match the earlier pics here ...

Link in my home page/sig as well to match all the other mods ...

(I must learn to author web pages properly...)

sirsmooth · « **Reply #143 on:** March 30, 2007, 11:01:00 AM »

If anyone wants the bolt/washer/nut kit to do this mod I can sell you one for £4 delivered if intrested. Uk only/paypal only.

Kit comprises of:
9 bolts/9 locking nuts/9 nuts/41 washers/9 spring washers. (1 extra of everything, just incase you lose one)
All you need to do this mod.

Saves looking for parts and you know you have the right legnths and sizes.

If intrested pm me.

Cheers Smooth

Taher · « **Reply #144 on:** March 30, 2007, 02:31:00 PM »

RBJTech, I want to thank you for all of your good tutorials ! at least for collecting all informations and put them together with good pictures

Thanks to all of you for sharing your informations with us.

RBJTech · « **Reply #145 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:14:00 PM »

Ok - took it all part and put back the thermal RAM pads .. what a pr*t ... anyway also took the time to take some more temprature readings.

New Temps

This is an update of a previous post - you're now looking at column G.

In summary, the new clamping method seems to to have actually knocked a few degress off the temps.

(ambient was 22 Deg C this time, so I corrected the temps based on this).

For the CPU, the most noticeable drop was on the base of the h/s where it was 4 degrees lower - better contact with the die perhaps ?

For the GPU this is a little unfair as I have also modified the GPU heatsink vs the stock one. Minus 3 deg C (5.5 deg F) over the die and an amazing Minus 7 degress (12.6 deg F) on the left most side of the heatsink (!).

I would put maybe 3 or 4 degrees down to the new clamping method but the rest must be down to the modding of the GPU heatsink fins (aka hack...

). So a more turbulent air path DOES provide better cooling as prooved here ...

RAM went down 1 deg C this likely because I used a different type of heatsink on the front RAM compared to my other xbox360 - I didn't bother checking all the other places as I hadn't changed them at all.

So, in summary - bolt clamping provides an equally, if not better method to get heat off the dies, and hopefully a much longer lasting solution than the X clamps !

Richard.

sirsmooth · « **Reply #146 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:20:00 PM »

Rich, I pretty much got the same setup as you now, Ive done all your mods bar the bottom fan under the motherbored, GPU heatsink hack/mod and the twilight silent fans.
I see from your temp chart that the twilight silent fans drop a few degrees off, so do you think they are worth £12?

Might be my next purchanse.

RBJTech · « **Reply #147 on:** March 30, 2007, 05:52:00 PM »

QUOTE(sirsmooth @ Mar 30 2007, 11:51 PM)

Rich, I pretty much got the same setup as you now, Ive done all your mods bar the bottom fan under the motherbored, GPU heatsink hack/mod and the twilight silent fans.
I see from your temp chart that the twilight silent fans drop a few degrees off, so do you think they are worth £12?

Might be my next purchanse.

Without a doubt - they pull more air and will make even better use of the air divider etc. PS Assume you mean Talismoon whisper fans ?

sirsmooth · « **Reply #148 on:** March 30, 2007, 07:14:00 PM »

yep, the tallismoon ones, Ill get me some.

cheers m8.

Taher · « **Reply #149 on:** April 02, 2007, 04:27:00 PM »

How can I attach a heat sink to RAM chips ? What glue I can use ?

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