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Sahfire

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« on: January 13, 2007, 12:52:00 PM »

Hello..
I was updating the 360 over xbox live yesterday. Suddently it got stuck.

I restarted the console a couple of times, and later It worked again. Played Gears of War & Halo 2. Next morning the whole loading screen with the 360 symbol got stuck, and now it have got worse. It's no picture/text or anything, only 3 red lights and a black TV.

Have Microsoft destroyed my console becuase It's fun for them or what?
Please... I have to much trouble in my life!
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CattyKid

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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2007, 08:37:00 PM »

There always seem to be a crop of people that experience this after each update.  Is it the update's fault or bad timing (actually... I guess any failure is bad timing)?
Is it still under warranty?  All of them were extended to one year.  If so, RETURN IT!  Don't think twice about it.
Any chance your AV cable has come loose though?  Maybe it somehow did?
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Sahfire

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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 10:37:00 AM »

I can't return it. The funny thing is that something got fucked more fucked while I sleeped. Gonna buy new AV cable, if that doesn't work...well, then i will burn this shit up ( film at the same time ) and sell all my games.

Edit : The sad thing is that while this happend I had free Xbox Live Gold & a friend came. FUCK, I want Halo 3 Beta... and now I can't buy a shit :'(

This post has been edited by Sahfire: Jan 14 2007, 06:42 PM
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2007, 02:13:00 PM »

We know from Major Nelson that the latest patch addressed "performance and stability".
No doubt the system is being pushed that little bit harder than it was prior to the patch. If there is a weakness in the hardware (like a marginal solder joint) then this performance increase could push it over the edge).

In my case, the problem took a few hours to show and has steadly gotten worse which seems to suggest hardware failure rather than software corruption.

Shit quality control and manufacturing standards after a solid year of production is a shameful fact. If 360's were cars, they'd all be recalled.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2007, 12:06:00 AM »

QUOTE(Sahfire @ Jan 14 2007, 06:08 PM) *

I can't return it. The funny thing is that something got fucked more fucked while I sleeped. Gonna buy new AV cable, if that doesn't work...well, then i will burn this shit up ( film at the same time ) and sell all my games.

Edit : The sad thing is that while this happend I had free Xbox Live Gold & a friend came. FUCK, I want Halo 3 Beta... and now I can't buy a shit :'(


hey i don't think it is AV cable!!
i have repair 360 with same think!!(3 red lights and a black TV)
look up heat gun repair befor
burning your360
i think you cound repair your 360 !!
and i think with a bet of luck your 360will last long time !!
what is your mfgd on your 360?
try to look up the forums
or
Buy a CORE system, move your hard drive over onto that

then sell
-Wired controller
-Extra PSU
-Extra AV cable
-Case from the broken Xbox
-DVD drive from the broken Xbox
-Power Eject Assembly from the broken Xbox
-Broken mobo (good for a few bucks at least)

you'll probably only loose about the cost of a game in the long run going with this method.

i got this info from this forums i think it is the best !!
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shenmuemaster

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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 02:56:00 AM »

Yeah i thought my 360 was dead too, and i cudnt be arsed to open up my 360 and try the heat gun method, even tho my warranty had expired. But there is an alternative (n00b) way of trying to fix it. It doesnt always work, but if you dont have a heatgun and you dont wanna open up your xbox, you dont have anything to lose. It will take up 15 mins of your time if that.

What i did was load up the 360, and leave it there for 15mins while on the 3 red lights. Also while u wait, place a thick towel and cover the back of the vents, so effectively the xbox 360 heats up (ironic since everyone seems to tell you to keep the 360 cool). So with the towel in place wait 15mins, and when the 15mins are up remove the towel and the back of the 360 should we quite hot. Now simply switch off the 360 and turn it back on. With any luck the 360 should load up back to the dashboard. (I filmed it, and i will post it on youtube soon. i can give u the link if u dont believe it works (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) )

However on my first attempt, it would load up the 360 and when i started to play any games, it would freeze loads. And when the 360 was turned off for about an hour the three red lights returned. So i did it again, this time makin sure the 360 was well ventilated, after the towel was removed, and played as many games as possible. I was expectin it to freeze again, but i was playin for an hour straight, and no problems watsoever. I decided to leave it turned off all night, and the next mornin it continued to work.

This method seems a very crude way of fixin a 360, but it seems to work for me. Kinda reminds me of the old fashioned valve pcs which needed time to heat up be4 it wud start working (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

My 360 was one of the early models, manufactured in october 05. Apparently these were notorious for breaking. Sumthin bout how the ram and chipsets are assembled, using BGA, and some of the solder joints can come loose, as the solder was not properly heated or wat not. Also summit bout the heat sink, aluminium foil was used on the earlier models? Anyways im a n00b and dont know much about the specific details (wierd since I got a computer science exam today and i still kno jack shit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

It seems now the problem has fixed with the current 360s, and this new 'performance' patch could be killing off the old 360s.

When was your 360 manufactured? Was it before 1st Jan 06? If so you could go to microsoft and ask for a free repair since in september last year, MS said they would repair the ealier models for free, but mentioned nuthin bout warranty, so u could go follow it up with them.

But I would recommend the heat gun fix if u feel adventurous  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by shenmuemaster: Jan 15 2007, 10:59 AM
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2007, 05:44:00 AM »

Thanx for the support all. I got an earlier build yes.

edit- shenmuemaster -> I belive it can work. Upload the vid anyway plz.
edit- It smells burnt! >:)

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2007, 06:21:00 AM »

Seems like the red lights disappear..but It's still black TV.


Edit - OMG.... I came to the dashboard! ... DOH!.. now its black TV again.

This post has been edited by Sahfire: Jan 15 2007, 02:32 PM
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Sahfire

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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 06:47:00 AM »

Works again after more tries,..multipel restarts etc. I've been on the dashboard and playing around for some minutes now.


THANX SHENMUEMASTER.... I LOVE YOU!! ( and thanks the others )
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shenmuemaster

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 12:16:00 PM »

no problem  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

however, in response to another post. im afraid it could be temporary. mine is acting up again. heatgun all the way! that would melt the sodler joints and fix the problem for good. Im actually redoin the trick since i bought lost planet today and im desperate to play it.

im currently takin things up with microsoft, demandin a free repair, cos they said it wud cost up to £100, which is riduculous considerin i shud jus buy a new one. anyways i wud consider the heatgun method...
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 12:21:00 AM »

Yeah, it was only temporary..awww.
I don't have a heatgun, but where should i use it. Just warm up the mobo anywhere?
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shenmuemaster

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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2007, 05:21:00 AM »

well, since last night, after redoin the towel method, and laying the xbox 360 horizontal, i played about 4-5hours straight on lost planet. Then let it cool for about 10 hours, set it back up and still works fine. Try the method again, and if u havnt got it horizontal, put it that way, and play a game solidly for a while and see wat happens.

about the heatgun method, there shud be some tutorials lyin about on the scene...
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