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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2006, 01:46:00 AM »

[quote name='madmackem' date='Dec 6 2006, 08:16 PM' post='3791187']
Ive started getting 3 reds now - what does that mean from OP? where/what is the sync up button?

i think my box might be overheating, it comes on to dash, loads a game then freezes, or i get nothing on screen and 3 reds any ideas?

sorry !! it is just a sync button !
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2006, 02:25:00 AM »

hey
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2006, 05:23:00 AM »

I have given my 360 for hot air gun fix for three times. For the first time it worked 2 or 3 days and then 3 red lights:) For the second time it didn't even worked for a second, 3 red lights right after turn on:) After third time 2 days have passed and it still works:) will be looking further and report if it'll break again.

p.s as it appeared for the first two times hot air gun fix had been done not properly(with radiators on CPU & GPU biggrin.gif ). The last one was correctly done...I really hope.

p.p.s my 360 MFG: 2006-03-15
it was working for 8 months without problems, i bought it on 20 of April.
I've never played it for several hours without brakes, often it stayed not working for 3-4 days...
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2006, 06:43:00 PM »

hey good job!!

but did you put arcticsilver5 past?
if you did good !!
then you need to go see this

http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

Important Reminder:
Due to the unique shape and sizes of the particles in Arctic Silver 5's conductive matrix, it will take a up to 200 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink or with a low speed fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop 2C to 5C over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired

hey thanks 4 the info~~~

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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2006, 12:03:00 AM »

mygameswirelesscom
I've replaced thermal paste on GPU and CPU, but not with arctic silver 5, cuz i live in small russian town and here it's troublesome to get arctic silver paste. But i put our russian thermal paste which is, belive me, not worse than arcticsilver5. Now i want to put a cooler on CPU heatsink, but wich is better to use?

still reciveing many reports from russian users of 360, that their consoles continue to die after hot air gun fix:( not sure why it's happening...maybe all of them done that fix not properly...keep my fingers crossed about my 360. But have a feeling that it won't live long:(
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2006, 12:53:00 AM »

QUOTE(Le Nikolaz @ Dec 13 2006, 07:34 AM) *

mygameswirelesscom
I've replaced thermal paste on GPU and CPU, but not with arctic silver 5, cuz i live in small russian town and here it's troublesome to get arctic silver paste. But i put our russian thermal paste which is, belive me, not worse than arcticsilver5. Now i want to put a cooler on CPU heatsink, but wich is better to use?

still reciveing many reports from russian users of 360, that their consoles continue to die after hot air gun fix:( not sure why it's happening...maybe all of them done that fix not properly...keep my fingers crossed about my 360. But have a feeling that it won't live long:(


hey how things going ?
russian thermal paste its ok it will do a job !!
so you are a russian !
and do you live in russia?
what part of small town do you live..
it is very importen to look up what twistedsymphony
has post he is the man that has most info on 3red light ...
and this is what i have read

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=553787
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=553213
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=553863
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=542648
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=511040
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=535941
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=531853
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=528706
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=522113
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=540874
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=467045
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=540874

look it up it will help you in a way too
think and let me know what you think ..
hey hop this help you in a way  
good luck !@@!

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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2006, 02:06:00 AM »

QUOTE(mygameswirelesscom @ Dec 13 2006, 04:24 PM) View Post

hey how things going ?
russian thermal paste its ok it will do a job !!
so you are a russian !
and do you live in russia?
what part of small town do you live..
it is very importen to look up what twistedsymphony
has post he is the man that has most info on 3red light ...
and this is what i have read

a lot of links:)
 
look it up it will help you in a way too
think and let me know what you think ..
hey hop this help you in a way  
good luck !@@!


My 360 still working:)
Yes I'm russian:) and live in Russia
I didn't catch your mind about :"what part of small town do you live.." smile.gif
I live in Far East, my town is situated on the border with China.
Thanks for links...i'll read them soon.

want to ask you about "oven fix" those motherboards which you "cooked" in oven...are they still working?
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2006, 03:20:00 AM »

QUOTE(Le Nikolaz @ Dec 13 2006, 10:13 AM) *

My 360 still working:)
Yes I'm russian:) and live in Russia
I didn't catch your mind about :"what part of small town do you live.." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I live in Far East, my town is situated on the border with China.
Thanks for links...i'll read them soon.

want to ask you about "oven fix" those motherboards which you "cooked" in oven...are they still working?


hey (Far East, my town is situated on the border with China)
i have freand in russia ..
i ask becouse it has a lot to do with moste & hummnety
if 3red comse back you may try heat gun one more time longer time not more then 5mins top
however "oven fix " is the last resort and it is not for newbee

Now this got my mind thinking, what if we could heat the board up to the 400-450 degree mark and let the solder flow enough to remake these knackered contacts. My solution to this is to put the complete board into the oven!!, set it up for about 400-450 as the thermostats are not great, remember there for cooking food! COVER anything with plastic in it (All connectors etc, remove board from case (obviously) and the heat sinks. Place on a baking tray (to allow you to remove with out picking up board and cook for about 10mins at that temperature. Then you have 2 choices turn off oven and DON'T move the board or move extremely carefully to cool slowly. I have repaired about 2 out of 3 other boards like this. IT MUST BE STRESSED TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL TO PROTECT ALL PLASTIC< IT WILL MELT. Successful on 0110 and 0102 errors so far.

Wife not very happy but hey if it works!!

Let me know how it goes

C
How do you cover the plastic connectors? Do you desolder them and take them off the board?

I used the foil backed fiberglass insultation for the plastic parts. The board that have been repaired are still working 4 weeks and counting!!!

EXTREMELY CAREFUL EXTREMELY CAREFUL EXTREMELY CAREFUL

you may try this too but as last last last last than think thin do it
P.S. it is not just do it
       ok good luck ~~ YOUR town maybe call soobonhi? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2006, 10:00:00 AM »

QUOTE(madmackem @ Dec 6 2006, 08:16 PM) View Post

Ive started getting 3 reds now - what does that mean from OP? where/what is the sync up button?

i think my box might be overheating, it comes on to dash, loads a game then freezes, or i get nothing on screen and 3 reds any ideas?



mines doing the same ... since FFXI and Playonline veiwer



I know mines not over-heating, cuz i didn't play too long.  I've had my 360 since launch day.  I've babied it, and all.  Well, I got FFXI in the mail from my mom, and started playing it.  I played it for like 2 or 3 days w/ no problems, then the next day (the 4 th day ... I was going to play and it didn't show anything no the t.v. screen.   i looked at my 360 and RED LIGHTS, not just one, all 4.  WTF?!?  well this was morning time so.... I let it sit until the next evening and it did the same thing when i cut it on after sitting for 24 hrs.  I uplugged and replugged everything back up ... *like 4 times in total now in total*, i tried it on and off that day , and it finally worked!  I got to play FFXI again , then it froze up on me and i had to restart my system, when i started it back up it kept freezing up during the online viewer sign in screen .. during the loading screen.  I tried signing in like 5 or 6 times, then it had the red lights of doom again.  This was monday... and today is freaking wednesday and it still isn't working.  Do you guys think i'll have to call in for a cardboard coffin??  ::sniffles::

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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2006, 07:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(6irl6amer6ore @ Dec 13 2006, 06:07 PM) *

mines doing the same ... since FFXI and Playonline veiwer
I know mines not over-heating, cuz i didn't play too long.  I've had my 360 since launch day.  I've babied it, and all.  Well, I got FFXI in the mail from my mom, and started playing it.  I played it for like 2 or 3 days w/ no problems, then the next day (the 4 th day ... I was going to play and it didn't show anything no the t.v. screen.   i looked at my 360 and RED LIGHTS, not just one, all 4.  WTF?!?  well this was morning time so.... I let it sit until the next evening and it did the same thing when i cut it on after sitting for 24 hrs.  I uplugged and replugged everything back up ... *like 4 times in total now in total*, i tried it on and off that day , and it finally worked!  I got to play FFXI again , then it froze up on me and i had to restart my system, when i started it back up it kept freezing up during the online viewer sign in screen .. during the loading screen.  I tried signing in like 5 or 6 times, then it had the red lights of doom again.  This was monday... and today is freaking wednesday and it still isn't working.  Do you guys think i'll have to call in for a cardboard coffin??  ::sniffles::

yes yes yes !!!
if you have warrenty yes you must do that do not open !!!! if you do you fuxxed !!!
and if you ask me get  the exten your warrenty pay $30 for 1 year $50 2years i think !
if it was me i get 2 years !!

The Customer Service guy said that when I get my fixed(replaced) unit, it comes with a fresh new 90 day warranty. He said that I have 88 days to purchase an extended warranty. I can either purchase a 1yr for $30 or 2yr for $60. He said that I can extend the 1yr to two before it runs out, so I'm opting for the 1yr(probably be a good mod out by then anyway).

I got slightly different information when I called yesterday. My box died on Wednesday with the flashing red lights of death, error code 0102. I've had it for almost four months, but I decided I'd call anyway. Luckily, I'd never registered the console, and didn't tell the tech exactly how long I'd had it ("a couple of months"), so my current warranty lasts until October 19. The tech said when I get my repaired/replacement system back, an additional 30 days is tacked on to the warranty. During that time, I can call back and pick up the 1 year extension for $30, or 2 years for $60. I'm definitely going with the 2 years, since I'm betting on the fact that the replacement (I doubt they'll repair it) will die in another 1-24 months, and I'll have to get another one. Hopefully, by the time it does, MS will have released a hardware revision, and I'll be good to go for the rest of this generation.


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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2006, 11:21:00 PM »

QUOTE(mygameswirelesscom @ Dec 13 2006, 06:51 PM) View Post

hey (Far East, my town is situated on the border with China)
i have freand in russia ..
i ask becouse it has a lot to do with moste & hummnety
if 3red comse back you may try heat gun one more time longer time not more then 5mins top
however "oven fix " is the last resort and it is not for newbee

you may try this too but as last last last last than think thin do it
P.S. it is not just do it
       ok good luck ~~ YOUR town maybe call soobonhi? unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

Don't sure that i'll dare to fix my 360's board in oven, but anyway thanks for info again:)
No, my town isn't soobonhi(generally i haven't heared about such town. I live in Blagoveschensk, it's in the South-East of Russia.
Listen mate, what the longest period of time you know 360 works after hot gun?
I've heared about 6 months! What do you think, can it be true? Also heared about 3 months, but that's not 6 anyway!
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« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2006, 11:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(Le Nikolaz @ Dec 14 2006, 07:28 AM) *

Don't sure that i'll dare to fix my 360's board in oven, but anyway thanks for info again:)
No, my town isn't soobonhi(generally i haven't heared about such town. I live in Blagoveschensk, it's in the South-East of Russia.
Listen mate, what the longest period of time you know 360 works after hot gun?
I've heared about 6 months! What do you think, can it be true? Also heared about 3 months, but that's not 6 anyway!

yes it is true !!
they have reports !!
even i have 2 360s that has com back today !! (i have repair befor in weeks)
this is two time they have come back to me !!
so this time i did 5mins with heat gun !!
and i put a pice of card in top of heatsink tower so it give more suckion but no good it head 3red in 5hrs times whan i put dvd and let it run... 3red came back...............
3red light........
so this time i put pice of ______ and give back today !!
i put pice of  __ this to give  tighten those heatsink  there will be a tighter bond between the GPU/CPU and their heatsinks i dont know 100% this will work !!
i did what i thik off at this time .......
i have fex 28~34 with heat gun !!
8 of came back !!
and i repair and send back and in week
2 came back !!
all my repairs are not more then 1or 2 months ! (3 360 i have repair in jun )
i have repair more than 40 xbox360 but with 3red it is 34 of them
in 34 repairs  with heat gun repair i did 29..
in 29 repairs i have 5 came back to me
seems to me i need more time .. so they comeback .............
most of them seems ok ( i know i need to give more time so they come back)
i know its  that useing heatgun more then 2~3times gives your mobo
a damage if you dont get to fex your 360 with 2 trys with heat gun dont do it no more
becuse you will friy you board !!!!

yes all my repairs are not more then 2months (most of them 3 weeks)
i am a new to fexing 360 ..........i need to time...
so if you think i am worng plz tell me
i wissh i could wright batter english
 please excuse my English.

P.S. yes some of my test with 360 with 3redlight repairs are good so far~~
        i am testing 1 more ......
     so i have 3 360 are in test
  if my test coms ok or good i will post so let you know
  oney the people who post in hear
 i see lots of viewers but they dont want to say ...............
yes i am a newbee repairing 360s
but i know i could repair this i have ____  with me all the time
all the time it works for me dont be a foll
post what happan to your 360 with heat gun !
let us know PLZ...................................................
 


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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2006, 12:38:00 PM »

i don't have any warranty

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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2006, 06:08:00 PM »

QUOTE(6irl6amer6ore @ Dec 15 2006, 08:45 PM) *

i don't have any warranty

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you could try to call ms ..
do not open your 360
tell ms what is going on with your 360
hey think ~~~
they not going to give warranty EZ
you need to try harder !!
think what your going to say ~
good luck !!

p.s. what is your mfg daet?
       let us know !!
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2006, 05:33:00 PM »

hi all
hey how is repairs going ?
i hop thinks are good

i see lot of 3 red light ....
and lot of heat gun repairs ....
i want to say aways call ms frist !!
you do not just try heat gun PLZ............
call ms plz.........
you do have warrenty !!

heat gun is last think you try !!
hey good luck with your repair !!

P.S. hey plz don sand no e-mail for .............
       say what you want to say in Forums Plz.........
           thank you !@@!

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