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gixx1000

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2006, 12:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(X-Staff @ Sep 27 2006, 11:31 AM) View Post

its tested perfectly fine in our lab (yes we have a lab at the factory) - for a few months now. It supports its purpose. and 1.5 Gb/s.
 - 3.0 Gb/s over usb2 ?  huh.gif

Did you look at eye diagrams or did you just plug it in and see that the computer sees the drive?  Working and not having data errors are two completely diffferent things.  

You can't push 1.5 Gb/s over USB2.0 either.  It doesn't mean that the drive isn't bursting the data at those high data rates.  Those bridge chips basically buffer the data to push it over USB.  I would be shocked if your eye patterns weren't nearly completely closed with that setup.  I can visually see the diffference in trace lengths, and that is horrible for skew unless your bridge is allowing you to adjust it.  Also, I'm sure that your impedance is way out of spec.  Is that even a four-layer board?

Now don't get me wrong, I've seen others do just as bad on a released product, but it just amazes me what some companies get away with.  If I designed a board like that, it would never pass compliance testing.
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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2006, 01:07:00 PM »

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If I designed a board like that


Fuck off, design one then make it. Then make a profit from it. Then come back and comment...
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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2006, 01:14:00 PM »

Team Xecuter is filling a need.  They're making it easy for folks who don't spend every waking hour reading Xbox-Scene.  Just like their previous products.  And they're improving them constantly.  I'm not an Xecuter fanboy by any stretch, but I applaud their efforts.

The little things are being nitpicked because they have set expectations very high due to their success with the Xbox1 modchips and X2/X3 BIOS.

I don't have any Team-Xecuter products, but I agree with "Buy it and know it works."  Makes sense, rather than tracking down such-and-such a PCI card or USB->SATA adapter.

To Team Xecuter, water off a duck's back.  Take the criticism and ignore the blatant whining, but don't discount the complaints... use it to make your products better!

Cheers,
Plex
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2006, 01:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(Perplexer @ Sep 27 2006, 03:21 PM) View Post

Team Xecuter is filling a need.  They're making it easy for folks who don't spend every waking hour reading Xbox-Scene.  Just like their previous products.  And they're improving them constantly.  I'm not an Xecuter fanboy by any stretch, but I applaud their efforts.

The little things are being nitpicked because they have set expectations very high due to their success with the Xbox1 modchips and X2/X3 BIOS.

I don't have any Team-Xecuter products, but I agree with "Buy it and know it works."  Makes sense, rather than tracking down such-and-such a PCI card or USB->SATA adapter.

To Team Xecuter, water off a duck's back.  Take the criticism and ignore the blatant whining, but don't discount the complaints... use it to make your products better!

Cheers,
Plex


Exactly, they're target market is basically "noobs".  I'm not necessarily saying if you buy one of these you're a noob, but I am saying I have yet to see a product that the more veteran people of the Xbox scene have NEEDED.  Everything has been a convenience thing where somebody was too lazy or too stupid to do it the first way, the cheaper way.  Instead they go the easy way out and get a "plug and play."  To me, it's like Xecuter now has the opposite strategy of what it had with Xbox 1.

Softmod - easy, plug and play, no hassle.  Xecuter made chips.

Xbox 360 - Xecuter opts for the easy plug and play stuff

I'm not a noob, so I don't buy their stuff.  I'm not knocking what their doing business-wise because if you can market a product to people who are stupid, lazy, ignorant, or don't care about money, then you just passed Business 101 in flying colors.

This comment scares me:
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For those saying why bother with this I should be working on a "real" hack. Well I might be and I might not be. The fact is I dont have to - if I choose to then thats mny choice - i owe nothing to anyone.


This, to me, shows the evolution of Xecuter.  What started as a hacktastic team full of talent with top-notch hacking talent and kernel perfection has shifted priorities.  Exactly as I stated before, the entire "scene" cares more about these firmware hacks and piracy than they do about homebrew.  It's sad.  Homebrew should be everybody's top priority.
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LiGhTfasT

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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2006, 02:06:00 PM »

This is just the sort of thing i'm looking for smile.gif

Too busy to fanny about as i dont have sata and this dvd mod is pretty crap anyway(but progress is good), No fun with out homebrew.

Whats so bad about a tool that simplifies the task of flashing your firmware......

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RAISH

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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2006, 02:24:00 PM »

Can I also ask a question???, its about the connectivity V2 kit, apart from the obvious fact that one of the switches ejects the DVD Drive, can I ask why you would need this for?  

Just ordered this from the nice guys at console synergy.

FECK OFF all the Techno-Geeks who think they know better, claiming that this is a noob product.  I certainly dont want to risk bricking my drive and if this helps then by all means.

Its abit like saying that we already have loads of brands of Cola, why do we need more, people like having choices and $50 aint much, especially when your importing to the UK.
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bissmo

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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2006, 02:28:00 PM »

check out mrmodchips he is in the uk
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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2006, 03:13:00 PM »

QUOTE(gixx1000 @ Sep 27 2006, 08:40 PM) View Post

Ok done.  Now I'm commenting.  This is what I do for a living.


Where can I buy yours?
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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2006, 03:22:00 PM »

QUOTE(LiGhTfasT @ Sep 27 2006, 09:13 PM) View Post

This is just the sort of thing i'm looking for smile.gif

Too busy to fanny about as i dont have sata and this dvd mod is pretty crap anyway(but progress is good), No fun with out homebrew.

Whats so bad about a tool that simplifies the task of flashing your firmware......


F*cking right  !!

Got mine today and flashed it this evening.  No balls'ing about getting the drive into modeB.

I was well impressed with the way it looked and how well it was made, obviously the result of a lot of work and design.


Oh BTW.....

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Fuck off, design one then make it. Then make a profit from it. Then come back and comment...
 LMFAO biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2006, 03:57:00 PM »

QUOTE(RAISH @ Sep 27 2006, 04:31 PM) View Post

FECK OFF all the Techno-Geeks who think they know better, claiming that this is a noob product.  I certainly dont want to risk bricking my drive and if this helps then by all means.


Joined in July?  9 Posts?  Need this to not brick your drive?

Noob (who bought a noob product)
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Textbook

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« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2006, 05:25:00 PM »

Just trying to inform the masses that the product isn't necessary.  Some people try to look for the free or cheapest way to do everything.

X360USB = $50 USD

1k resistor + SATA card = under $20

have a laptop?

1k resistor + generic sata to usb = under $30

having me mod it tongue.gif = $40

3 options right there, all cheaper than the X360USB.

I like to save money where possible (typical college student), maybe others are like-minded.
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« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2006, 05:40:00 PM »

Is there a instruction manual anywhere? I want to buy this but i want to knowhow to work the things first.
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« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2006, 09:58:00 PM »

QUOTE(X-Staff @ Sep 27 2006, 05:24 PM) View Post

<snip> "A big rant" <snip>

Thanks for making my choice so easy, I'll never buy a Team-Xecuter product in my life.

QUOTE(RAISH @ Sep 27 2006, 11:55 PM) View Post

... dont see any problem is paying a little extra which helps those in the scene ...

I don't think c4e is seeing a penny of the profit made by these products.
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Poida^

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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2006, 11:47:00 PM »

Nice product...

Can't wait to read the review...
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« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2006, 07:22:00 AM »

QUOTE(Rhys777 @ Sep 27 2006, 11:53 PM) View Post

Well fuck my arse raw. I thought this was a £30 device to make life a little easier. Why dont you just fuck off to a "bridge board" forum then?

Im fucking sick to the back teeth of pointless posts on these forums. Why dont stupid fuckers just post relevant information and not just shit that makes me angry. If you use the term "noob" in a serious manner or say things like "I am a cunt", then please piss off...

Rant Over


I'm not siding with anyone here, but Rhys77, you get my vote for "most entertaining post of the year" biggrin.gif
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