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[RiPpN-N-TrIppN]

YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR CASE TO USE THIS TOOL
i repeat
YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR CASE TO USE THIS TOOL
it just makes things easyier for hitaci drives this wont work with a samsung
u still need to open your case to use this tool it just allows you to use the dvddrive alone without having to have it connected to your xbox and have the xbox powered
but you can only flash the drive if you have a hitaci drive
so just to clear up for the ppl who cant read
YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR 360 TO USE THIS
AND YOU CANT FLASH A SAMSUNG USING THIS

[X-Staff]

QUOTE(pablot @ Sep 27 2006, 05:28 AM)

neat.. but wasn't one of the main fetures that the firmware of the adapter it self could be uptdated to allow the future samsung support that they are working on? Don't see it in the feature list so I'm guessing it's not supported...

/pablot

if you can find this feature ever posted by xecuter then ill give you a free X360 USB.

Samsung is and always has been a seperate device.

QUOTE(gerzand @ Sep 27 2006, 05:30 AM)

Nice development on this product and has a very appealing design. However, I just cant see a whole lot of ppl spending $50 on this unless all you do is go to peoples houses and flash FW's alot. They could cut some costs by eliminating the "fancy schmancy" LED's and focus more on a lower price point.

a $600 console and ppl think spending $50 on a device that will be all you ever need for any firmware updates you ever do is too much ? amazing  

why do some users always mention that they have a problem with LED's ? I just dont get it ??

lets look at some numbers

USB - SATA Converter - Generic $20 - $25
Connectivity Kit - v1 sells for $20 - $30
HDD Adapter - XSATA sells for $30

It is not expensive at $45 - $50 - and FYI leds cost 0.02c each

All this development and a couple of months of showing what it is and howmuch it is and then i walk intoa few posts saying "its too expensive" - again, amazing  

QUOTE(RiPpN-N-TrIppN @ Sep 27 2006, 11:18 AM)

YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR CASE TO USE THIS TOOL
i repeat
YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR CASE TO USE THIS TOOL
it just makes things easyier for hitaci drives this wont work with a samsung
u still need to open your case to use this tool it just allows you to use the dvddrive alone without having to have it connected to your xbox and have the xbox powered
but you can only flash the drive if you have a hitaci drive
so just to clear up for the ppl who cant read
YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR 360 TO USE THIS
AND YOU CANT FLASH A SAMSUNG USING THIS

erm ok   ?

are you on drugs ??

are you making this post cus you just found all this info out and you think its a conspiracy or you are tired of people asking these particular dumb questions just cus they didnt actually read the production description

QUOTE(zoltari @ Sep 27 2006, 08:41 AM)

One thing I don't like is the super bright blue led cluster on the Xecuter v2 connection kit - I don't need to be blinded every time I connect the damn thing, thanks all the same. The Mode B and Eject switches are a bit weird too, the are puch and lock switches rather than push to connect - so they stay down and down activate till you press them a second time to release them, which is just bizarre.

1. LED'S - its ok to complain. But trust me if there was no status led's there would be far more complaints - tape over them or remove the leds if you dont like - but they are there for a reason.

2. The switchs have to be like this as eject works different for both hitachi and samsung. nothing weird about it at all. its a switch, it works as described - thats it.

[Textbook]

QUOTE(X-Staff @ Sep 27 2006, 06:32 AM)

QUOTE

YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR CASE TO USE THIS TOOL
i repeat
YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR CASE TO USE THIS TOOL
it just makes things easyier for hitaci drives this wont work with a samsung
u still need to open your case to use this tool it just allows you to use the dvddrive alone without having to have it connected to your xbox and have the xbox powered
but you can only flash the drive if you have a hitaci drive
so just to clear up for the ppl who cant read
YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR 360 TO USE THIS
AND YOU CANT FLASH A SAMSUNG USING THIS

are you on drugs ??

are you making this post cus you just found all this info out and you think its a conspiracy or you are tired of people asking these particular dumb questions just cus they didnt actually read the production description

Read the thread, it is obvious he is making that quote in reference to some noob that has already asked if he doesn't have to open up his Xbox 360 to use this because he can't read.

QUOTE(wertyxhts @ Sep 27 2006, 02:19 AM)

if I were to buy this to update my dvd firmware, would I need to open my 360? and how can i check if my dvd drive is compatiable with this product?

Then an even bigger noob answers him incorrectly saying he doesn't have to open his 360 to flash his firmware.

QUOTE(alexh @ Sep 27 2006, 03:35 AM)

No. You can work out compatiblity just by ejecting the tray on your 360. Different manufacturers have different looking CD trays.

http://www.llamma.co..._Comparison.htm

There is a button on the connectivity kit to put Hitachi drives into mode B

Some people are just trying to correct the idiot's mistakes.

[1337 pig]

Its about time, i thought divineo was never gona get them in stock, now i just got to wait another 2 weeks or so for shipping.

[cerealkillajme]

Wow, alot of money to spend when you can pickup compatible cards for $10-15 and use the 2 wire trick. But there are always n00bs who will buy this. Only way I would ever buy this is if I were flashing alot more 360s than I have been. Maybe some people still don't realize you can use a SATA to USB convertor (most are $20) and power the drive with the 360.

And I find myself saying this again: WTF happened to those Avalaunch and 500 gig HD pictures that Xecutor said was real?

Hardly feasible if they are wasting time making all these devices for a FW hack that will be obsolete in a few months (probably).

[tutu]

I'll wait till you add Samsung support   Seems like a unfinished product to me, only supporting one model...  

When are we going to see something useful from you (hence original) like a modchip that allows homebrew

[bill16504]

"Wow, alot of money to spend when you can pickup compatible cards for $10-15"

What about users who only have laptops?

[cerealkillajme]

QUOTE(Ken_D @ Sep 27 2006, 02:16 PM)

Been trying to get an answer to this one for a while: I don't have an external Molex PSU to power the DVD drive once I get it out of the XBox (I'm flashing from a laptop). Now I know you can buy a separate PSU, but .... are there any problems with using the 360 to power the DVD drive whilst I'm flashing from the laptop (via the X360USB)? Or do I really need to go and buy an external PSU?

I've flashed all the 360's I've done using the 360 to power the DVD drive. Mine I cut the 360 on to give it power, wait 10 seconds, then cut PC on. Never had a single problem. Grounding is recommended (I don't do that either, lol). Some will also say to cut the PC on, then wait a few seconds and cut the 360 on afterwards. It seems to work both ways, either cut the 360 on 1st or second, if it doesn't work then reverse the order.

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What about users who only have laptops?

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Maybe some people still don't realize you can use a SATA to USB convertor (most are $20) and power the drive with the 360.

[XanTium]

QUOTE(PommeGranny @ Sep 27 2006, 12:00 PM)

Does the hard drive box need to be opened in order to use the kit, or can I plug it directly with the HDD case on ?

To connect the HDD, no ... you will not have to open the HD or Xbox 360 case.
Just connect HDD Connectivity Kit on the Xbox 360 HD Case adapter and then use an SATA cable from HDD Connectivity Kit to SATA-to-USB adapter, then use USB mini-A cable to A to connect SATA-to-USB adapter with PC.
You'll also have to connect a power-source to the HDD Connectivity Kit (either a 4pin molex or USB-

To connect the DVD drive you will have to open your Xbox 360.

[Textbook]

QUOTE(cerealkillajme @ Sep 27 2006, 08:38 AM)

Wow, alot of money to spend when you can pickup compatible cards for $10-15 and use the 2 wire trick. But there are always n00bs who will buy this. Only way I would ever buy this is if I were flashing alot more 360s than I have been. Maybe some people still don't realize you can use a SATA to USB convertor (most are $20) and power the drive with the 360.

And I find myself saying this again: WTF happened to those Avalaunch and 500 gig HD pictures that Xecutor said was real?

Hardly feasible if they are wasting time making all these devices for a FW hack that will be obsolete in a few months (probably).

Beautiful post - just beautiful.  

...waiting for a real mod, or even an announcement/update would be nice at this point.  Yeah, we all know it was running on a devkit, but at least update us on what you have accomplished since then.  Do you guys not care about homebrew?  Is piracy your best business model?  I can see why you are making the products, but I'd rather see more work on homebrew.

I'll quote HSDemonz

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For me.. the box isn’t modded until we can enjoy XBMC or a reasonable facsimile on the 360. Until that goal is achieved, all others,  are pretenders.

[gixx1000]

X-Staff,
Who does your PCB layouts for that SATA-USB adapter?  Do they know anything at all about SATA?  Did you guys do any signal integrity testing on that board?  That board looks like it was laid out by someone who has never read the SATA spec, and has never heard of things like differential impedance, jitter, and skew.  I wouldn't be surprised if that board created data errors in its conversion to USB.  You're probably getting by because the traces are so short, but a board like that would never fly in the hard drive industry.  I don't mean to bash your product, but whoever laid out that board needs to do some reading.  Signal integrity is major when data rates are around 1.5-3.0 Gb/s.

[X-Staff]

To all the ppl who gripe about " ut you can get this to do it cheaper"

I know this. But i made a device anyway and compiled it as a kit. It works and it does as advertised. You dont want it dont buy it - thats fine.

Ive heard it all before with mods - that you can softmod - you dont need a mod - but you forget one thing.

Why I differ to a lot of people who troll these forums is that I see the big picture. If I make something that some one will buy then they will buy it. Either it makes things easier for them, either they just like our products or its a device that does what they need. You will always get someone who can do it another way without having to buy that product - but posting about it going "why do you bother, i do it this way la la la" just looks like self glorification - very bizarre but a trait shared by many in the mod scene.

For those saying why bother with this I should be working on a "real" hack. Well I might be and I might not be. The fact is I dont have to - if I choose to then thats mny choice - i owe nothing to anyone.

And to those who are still on their soapbox about this being for piracy only - I applaud your whiter than white linux gurus stance. You are impressive and as such should get laid far more times than I do.

In the meantime I continue to make products that are usefull to most and continue to keep the quality as high as possible. I can't please everyone and I don't try to - so if you have nothing of relevance to say try to contain yourself and don't say it - I know its hard  

I try to post on here to answer questions and give a little support and to show my face, but all I get is people who havent read what the product is, questions asking the same thing over and over even though its been answered, people posting why bother - its shit - get this for $20 etc, saying why waste our time on these products when we should be doing XYZ  

a waste of time - if anyone requires any support or to ask any relevant questions then ill be over at www.team-xecuter.com

thanks for your time.

[zoltari]

QUOTE(X-Staff @ Sep 27 2006, 11:18 AM)

im not sure I follow ?

Flashing takes around 6-8 seconds using birdy

and i could flash 20 drives in a row in less than 3 minutes - hows that slower than sata ?

I am using OPA - Xtreme v2.1 firmware - Hitachi 7in1 from a command prompt in XP. It takes about 8-10 seconds on SATA and 15-12 in USB; not much in it I know, but it is definately slower. Never used Birdy so I wouldn't know if that runs at the same speed or not.

QUOTE(X-Staff @ Sep 27 2006, 11:32 AM)

1. LED'S - its ok to complain. But trust me if there was no status led's there would be far more complaints - tape over them or remove the leds if you dont like - but they are there for a reason.

2. The switchs have to be like this as eject works different for both hitachi and samsung. nothing weird about it at all. its a switch, it works as described - thats it.

1. Wasn't really compaining, I just happen to like the v1 better.  Xecuter even say on their site "*NEW* Cool LED Design (Why? who cares - it looks cool)". So yesm they server a purpose, but they are a bit O.T.T. Just my opinion.

2. The switches don't have to be like this at all - they could be push to connect (ie they don't stay down when you press them) I know because I have just swapped mine out for teo push to connect switches, reemoving the push and hold switches and it works just great on Samsung and Hitachi. So yes, in my opinion it is is weird.

QUOTE(X-Staff @ Sep 27 2006, 11:32 AM)

why do some users always mention that they have a problem with LED's ? I just dont get it ??

Why do some people always have to comment on other peoples comments? I just don't get that !!

And what is it with you and all your posts? We get it already, you love the thing, your are going to marry it and have its children! OK! OK! No one else say anything remotely bad about it or X-Staff wil cry.

I thought the whole point of a forum was to discuss personal opinions and give critisism / praise where required / deemed necessary.

You do know what the word forum means don't you?  An assembly or meeting place for the discussion of questions of public interest... It isn't somewhere wher you come just to try and contradict everyone else just because you love something and can't stand the fact that anyone has something different to say.

[X-Staff]

QUOTE(gixx1000 @ Sep 27 2006, 04:00 PM)

X-Staff,
Who does your PCB layouts for that SATA-USB adapter?  Do they know anything at all about SATA?  Did you guys do any signal integrity testing on that board?  That board looks like it was laid out by someone who has never read the SATA spec, and has never heard of things like differential impedance, jitter, and skew.  I wouldn't be surprised if that board created data errors in its conversion to USB.  You're probably getting by because the traces are so short, but a board like that would never fly in the hard drive industry.  I don't mean to bash your product, but whoever laid out that board needs to do some reading.  Signal integrity is major when data rates are around 1.5-3.0 Gb/s.

its tested perfectly fine in our lab (yes we have a lab at the factory) - for a few months now. It supports its purpose. and 1.5 Gb/s.
 - 3.0 Gb/s over usb2 ?  

QUOTE(zoltari @ Sep 27 2006, 06:25 PM)

I am using OPA - Xtreme v2.1 firmware - Hitachi 7in1 from a command prompt in XP. It takes about 8-10 seconds on SATA and 15-12 in USB; not much in it I know, but it is definately slower. Never used Birdy so I wouldn't know if that runs at the same speed or not.
1. Wasn't really compaining, I just happen to like the v1 better.  Xecuter even say on their site "*NEW* Cool LED Design (Why? who cares - it looks cool)". So yesm they server a purpose, but they are a bit O.T.T. Just my opinion.

2. The switches don't have to be like this at all - they could be push to connect (ie they don't stay down when you press them) I know because I have just swapped mine out for teo push to connect switches, reemoving the push and hold switches and it works just great on Samsung and Hitachi. So yes, in my opinion it is is weird.
Why do some people always have to comment on other peoples comments? I just don't get that !!

And what is it with you and all your posts? We get it already, you love the thing, your are going to marry it and have its children! OK! OK! No one else say anything remotely bad about it or X-Staff wil cry.

I thought the whole point of a forum was to discuss personal opinions and give critisism / praise where required / deemed necessary.

You do know what the word forum means don't you?  An assembly or meeting place for the discussion of questions of public interest... It isn't somewhere wher you come just to try and contradict everyone else just because you love something and can't stand the fact that anyone has something different to say.

Now you are just being irrelevant - thats my point  

1. The LED's on the CK2 have a disable switch - you knew that right ?
2. the switches - Eject works different on Hitachi and Samsung - thats why these switches are used. If you have a release switch one version of the drive does not stay eject, thats why the lock switches are in place - it hasnt changed from v1 of the connect kit. It also works - a relevant point.

Look bro, it's not about crticism - its about RELEVANT criticism. I could spend 6 months on a product and someone will always gripe about the absolute most irrelevant thing, not the fact that it doesnt work but that an LED is too bright or they dont like the color of the PCB - I see pages of this type of thing and at the end a little sub note - oh yeah it works btw. if you had to deal with this kind of nonsense every day you'd understand where I was coming from.

And at least I take the time to post directly here - you don't see much of that from others. It's like talking to a brick wall sometimes it really is.

[X-Staff]

QUOTE(X-Staff @ Sep 27 2006, 11:32 AM)

1. LED'S - its ok to complain. But trust me if there was no status led's there would be far more complaints - tape over them or remove the leds if you dont like - but they are there for a reason.

Also apologies for the bit about LED's I mis read and thought you were talking about the 360USB LED's - I see now you are talking about the connecivity kit. Yes indeed they were overkill and more of a "fun" aspect from my point of view - but thats why I also added a disable switch to turn them off.