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xbox13

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Will We Ever Have The Ability To Record Tv
« on: June 22, 2004, 04:13:00 AM »

Like in Windows xp media center???  <
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nimbles

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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2004, 04:49:00 AM »

no

there's no tv in for starters  <
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2004, 06:17:00 AM »

I prsonally think the straight no is jumping the gun a bit.

There have been various things done already that allow us to watch/record certain stuff using a PC with TV as a server, TiVO stuff....etc...

There is a nice Python script........ who knows what could happen in the future...... howeve it is very unlikley/impossible that you will be able to just plug the xbox into a tv point and watch.

- Shorty

(Disclaimer. I have not tried any of the above mentioned things, just read about them, only because i do not have the necessary hardware)  <
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nimbles

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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2004, 07:24:00 AM »

sure but in the case you specify you are essentially recording on the pc and streaming to the xbox right? i must admit i have never thought that it would be possible so never really researched it.

there is ofcourse the option of a usb tuner but as i understand usb 2 is an impossibility with the xbox so you would be stuck with a 1.1 usb tuner which may be enough.  <
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2004, 08:54:00 AM »

What if I would / Could use an external USB 1.0 T.V. Tuner device (like those made for Laptops? Ofcouse the biggest problem would be getting the Drivers for them. And eventhough the XBOX has a RTC I don't think you could just set it to come on at a certin time. allthough you can set it to shutdown after a priod of inactivity.

I think this should be able to work given that the XBOX uses the USB 1.0 Bus.
But, I dont think a pure digital (e.g. TiVo would work USB 1.0 is to slow),
would be posable. But, I'd settle for less then perfect if I could use such a feature!  <
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2004, 12:24:00 PM »

How about the ethernet input?

Anyone looking at that?   <
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Ichijoe

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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2004, 12:45:00 PM »

How would you be able to capture a TV Signal though the Ethernet port?
I think the idea here is to try and make the XBOX a PVR that doesn't need a PC to stream off of...  <
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2004, 12:45:00 PM »

QUOTE (Ichijoe @ Jun 22 2004, 04:43 PM)
What if I would / Could use an external USB 1.0 T.V. Tuner device (like those made for Laptops? Ofcouse the biggest problem would be getting the Drivers for them. And eventhough the XBOX has a RTC I don't think you could just set it to come on at a certin time. allthough you can set it to shutdown after a priod of inactivity.

I think this should be able to work given that the XBOX uses the USB 1.0 Bus.
But, I dont think a pure digital (e.g. TiVo would work USB 1.0 is to slow),
would be posable. But, I'd settle for less then perfect if I could use such a feature!
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How about the ethernet input? Anyone looking at that?


Is it worth the effort to record on the xbox if you have a capture card on the pc?

Streaming is fine, but recording.....

Dont hold your breaths...  <
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shorty

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2004, 01:15:00 AM »

@ Jaydee...

Exactly, i think the ideal solution would be having the xbox networked to a pc which has a PVR card, then make an interface for xbox so that you can control it remotley (ie. Look at a TV guide, Mark programs for recording (on the PC hardrive) and Switch channel on the fly)

And if im not mistaken there is a python script that allows the changing of channels and another that allows you to view a TV guide (but not to change channel from the guide or mark them for recording)

So alot of the groundwork is there already...

One problem is, it would need to support lots of different TV cards or anyone that wanted this feature would need to buy a specific tuner.

- Shorty

P.S I only just discovered the python scripts the other day and the possibilities with it are amazing.  <
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2004, 01:57:00 AM »

If you want a pure XBMC solution, I wouldnt wait for it, as I think the devs have much more they want to work on first.  Altho, if you have a MythTV box on your network, you can use a python script to interface with the MythTV box in a limited way now (show recorded shows, status of the box, TV Guide) but the person(s) who are working on the scripts are now focusing on being able to schedule recordings now, so thats a big advantage to using MythTV.  You can also bypass XBMC and install a MythTV frontend on the Xbox thru Xebian, and use the Xbox to interface with the backend MythTV box that does the recording and you have all the same abilities on your Xbox as you would thru the actual MythTV backend box.  If you dont know what any of this means, go to mythtv.org and read up on it.  There are links to the Xbox distro for MythTV as well.  

The scripts you refer to shorty are for people using DVB cards, and from what I can tell you have to be using mytheater to use that, as I havent messed with it.  I myself am using a MythTV box and XBMC's python scripts to watch my recordings, and the MythWeb interface on another PC to schedule recordings.    <
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2004, 09:14:00 AM »

For all the time and effort it would take to implement what will be a subpar solution for the majority of people out there - why not just spend a little cash on a Replay TV or Tivo.  These units have come way down in price.  I just can't see someone making a massive time commitment for what will be at best sub-par results when supperior technology is readily available and cheap.  If it's a money issue in buying a Tivo - get a job and if you are unwilling to work a minimum of hours to get it, don't expect someone else to beat their heads against the wall for hundreds of hours so you don't have to.  My opinion anyway - life is short and time is limited.  <
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