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mygameswirelesscom

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« Reply #150 on: January 15, 2007, 12:22:00 AM »

QUOTE(Hendrixtwin @ Jan 15 2007, 12:59 AM) *

I have done the heat gun trick to mine also replaced the thermal paste with silver stuff and have replaced stock fans with the talismoon and have done he cardboard heating trick. No red lights but the games freeze after about 20mins of play.
Do I need to use the heat gun again? Can I just heat the bottom of the board or do I need to take off the heatsink again and replace the paste?

Thanks for any tips.

you could try tooth pick !!
it work for me !!
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Anusko

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« Reply #151 on: January 18, 2007, 06:40:00 AM »

I live in Portugal and in the last month I've got four x360 with 0102 error code... small badly manufactured batch? Don't think so...
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« Reply #152 on: January 18, 2007, 08:47:00 AM »

QUOTE(deskstar @ Jan 13 2007, 05:35 PM) View Post

Without a doubt its down to the shoddy way this box is manufactured,two days ago i got the ring of lights error code 0102 so i fired up my heat gun got out the silver foil stripped the box down and started to heat up the board first on low then on high for 2mins on each setting let it cool for 1 hour,before you put the heat syncs back in make damm sure you use a good quality thermal compound (artic silver) or you will just get over heating errors but now after the heat gun fix my 360 boots up every single time and plays for as long as i wish, remember keep the thing cool TRY IT, IT REALY DOES WORK

Yes we're sure that it does, but for how long? 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months, is there someone who has had a real long run with this fix, or is it just a few you very talented few, who are really good at it. I mean torque the screws just right heat just perfectly. This time my box passed the towel fix, boots up fine now, no more red lights just freezes 2 minutes into ever game I try to play, well today I will use my BRAND NEW Milwaukee HEAT RAY GUN.
 Where??? PLEASE …does the artic silver go does anyone have a diagram I do not know what the heat sync is or even looks like. Do I spread smear what precisely am I doing with the Arctic 5? These two brackets on the mobo look really hard to take off I need to take these off RIGHT?
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« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2007, 05:18:00 AM »

I finally felt confidant enough to put the heat gun to work. Sure enough works now, I played last night, 2 games around 2 hours and played this morning, gears of war and dead rising for about 2 more hours more, no freeze no 3 lights no sign of trouble whatsoever. I sure hope this is it, sure would be great.
 I dare not close it up yet, so the top is still off and will wait a few days to reassemble the casing, artic silver 5 was also applied and it seems to run a bit cooler maybe because the top is off I never had it overheat on me never played it more then a few hours at a time, I hope this is the end of my 3 light dilemma. I will post back if it starts up again. I will also post back the good news if there is any, in about a week or so, if it is still working that is.
Thank you all of you where very helpful.
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Darth Darius

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« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2007, 09:09:00 AM »

QUOTE(Darth Darius @ Jan 12 2007, 10:58 AM) View Post

Well after my 9th time to do the heat gun trick and , last just a few weeks with middle play, i decide to buy another 360 (with extended garant. course) after a month , with my head cold , ill do this with my old , and death 360:

i "cook the modbo like this":

http://i140.photobuc...pg?t=1168622456

Sorry for the quality its a cellphone!!!
Thinking in just do the same "repair", but in the time ill drink a cold tecate beer i just see my refreshing drink an say "aluminium", i finish my beer an cut a piece like this:

http://i140.photobuc...pg?t=1168622771

well i cut 2 pieces and fold them to get thiknes, in the form of the ram and the other chip, put some artic silver and put between the heatsinks and chips to create pressure, be careful to cut exacly the chip form to avoid short cuts, put it back together an tested for 3 weeks, i got the brand new 360 stored under my bed, if you got nothing to loose, try this!!!

Cheers!!!!



Well today this fix run up for 4 weeks!!! yesterday, my day off, i play 3 hours of gow, 2 hours of Batlle for middle earth, see a movie, 1 hour of oblivion, and no crashes!!!! ill think this works!!!!

Cheers!!!!!
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« Reply #155 on: January 20, 2007, 04:09:00 AM »

QUOTE(Darth Darius @ Jan 19 2007, 11:16 AM) View Post

Well today this fix run up for 4 weeks!!! yesterday, my day off, i play 3 hours of gow, 2 hours of Batlle for middle earth, see a movie, 1 hour of oblivion, and no crashes!!!! ill think this works!!!!

Cheers!!!!!


It would be nice to know what this trick is in layman terms i see the pictures of cola can cut up and a ton of foil what the heck is this trick share it please. Is this like the toothpick trick I still cannot find but keep hearing about how it works help us out with more info on these fixes?
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Darth Darius

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« Reply #156 on: January 20, 2007, 10:14:00 AM »

QUOTE(davidrose9 @ Jan 20 2007, 05:16 AM) View Post

It would be nice to know what this trick is in layman terms i see the pictures of cola can cut up and a ton of foil what the heck is this trick share it please. Is this like the toothpick trick I still cannot find but keep hearing about how it works help us out with more info on these fixes?


Well Davidrose , you do the heat gun trick first, as you Know , i did it with the two heatsinks off,  then you cut the alumminium can like the picture in the form of the two chips under the heatsinks, (just the plastic form), in the next pic , http://i140.photobuc...r7/Modbo360.jpg, watch for no put the piece in the small capacitors , just in the plastic like the pic, the pieces must be 2 for each chip to do the job done, put some artic silver in the chips, in the first piece to do a "sandwich" between pieces , this help for no moves when you installing the heatsinks

like this http://i140.photobuc...gengar7/Fix.jpg

when you put the heatsinks and put the screws the heatsink do pressure over the chip and prevent the fatal error.

Cheers
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« Reply #157 on: January 21, 2007, 11:05:00 AM »

QUOTE(Tito2k6 @ Aug 11 2006, 11:09 AM) View Post

I can testify that this is a problem that many may not encounter for some time.  

I had my system since December with no problems.  It started hanging up in games and during startup just last week.  Then two days ago it locked up and I got the red lights/102 code when I restarted it.

My point is this:  My system has rarely been moved, is well ventilated, and worked perfectly for 8 months.  Therefore, ALL 360 OWNERS should be aware that this can happen at any time.  I don't want to start spreading fear, but you could be next.

I know many had problems at launch, but MS's problems may actually become worse as time goes on.

I thought I was one of the lucky ones.

PS  Interestingly enough, when I leave it on for several minutes with the red lights flashing, I can usually get it to start.  It's like I need to buy some starter fluid or something  biggrin.gif

"Maybe I should get out and push!"



this fact came to life for me yesterday
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Darth Darius

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« Reply #158 on: January 22, 2007, 10:06:00 AM »

The aluminium can fix, pass the weekend!!!!!, finish the blazing angels game, 1 hour of oblivion

ill report if system crash,  but think i got it!!!!!!

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madas

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« Reply #159 on: January 24, 2007, 10:16:00 AM »

I have been informed by phone that i need to pay 105 euros to repair a fault that my xbox 360 was probably built with!!

Just missed out by a month on the 12 month warranty,i have hardly pld the damn thing either untill i got gears of war , oblivion and lost planet  all great games!

Then i get e79 error and the dreaded three red lights,after changing date and time and without memory card harddrive etc worked ok for 5 mins then same again crashing and dreaded red lights

Considering i have not had the console that long and the money i paid for it i am absolutely disgusted that i have to pay 105 euros for a faulty machine to be fixed! how long will it last then? another year if played once in a blue moon?
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Darth Darius

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« Reply #160 on: January 26, 2007, 03:48:00 PM »

Belive me , the aluminium can fix works!!!, i got a Nyko intercooler, and i decide to take it off from my 360, and ,this will works like charm!!!, yesterday my day off y play every morninga and part of the evening.
No crashes!!!!!, no freeze, Belive me this works!!!!

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« Reply #161 on: January 26, 2007, 04:04:00 PM »

Ok, yesterday i used arctic-clean to remove the arctic silver ceramique compound and replaced it with Artic Silver 5, also put the toothpicks under the X clips of the GPU and CPU.

Up to now its working fine, played approx 6 hours + and no lockups or freezes.

I used to have Error 0102 by the way.

Lets see how long this works for.  I have a heatgun on standby if it goes bad again.  Will use that as a last resort.

I'll let you know how long this lasts, i think it all depends on how long you play your 360 for on average.  I play quite a lot so will probably see errors quicker than an average gamer.

There's no question that you can get your 360 up and running again after the 0102 error, the question is, for how long......

This post has been edited by FearsomeSNR: Jan 27 2007, 12:05 AM
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« Reply #162 on: January 26, 2007, 09:13:00 PM »

My second 360 died today. Both died of 0102. dry.gif
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« Reply #163 on: January 27, 2007, 09:09:00 AM »

Alight Ive been messing with it and now I have been able to get it working byremoving the fan duct thing and letting it heat up for a minute.  So far this has worked everytime ive tried it.  I guess it pretty much the same as the towel trick but this way is faster.  I think im going to add a switch so i can turn the fans off with the case on.
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« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2007, 06:04:00 AM »

QUOTE(Darth Darius @ Jan 20 2007, 12:21 PM) View Post

Well Davidrose , you do the heat gun trick first, as you Know , i did it with the two heatsinks off,  then you cut the alumminium can like the picture in the form of the two chips under the heatsinks, (just the plastic form), in the next pic , http://i140.photobuc...r7/Modbo360.jpg, watch for no put the piece in the small capacitors , just in the plastic like the pic, the pieces must be 2 for each chip to do the job done, put some artic silver in the chips, in the first piece to do a "sandwich" between pieces , this help for no moves when you installing the heatsinks

like this http://i140.photobuc...gengar7/Fix.jpg

when you put the heatsinks and put the screws the heatsink do pressure over the chip and prevent the fatal error.

Cheers

Well three days of happy happy with my heat gun fix and RLOD back for a second time (only got to play it a few hours), so I through a towel over it and wala its lasted now for four days and I have been playing it 7 or 8 hours a day 3 day heat trick I didn’t play but a few hours, so I guess I will just have to play like crazy every day. Yeah that’s it> I will attempt the aluminum can fix next I have an option to swap it for a newer used 360 with a Hitachi LG drive $125 I don’t want to because I love my Sammy and besides, does anyone really know if this issue is fixed in the newer 360’s it may be found out 9 months from now that it hasn’t, or has it been addressed? Only read the MS is 280 million in the red not only because of this but it is part of it.
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