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[dtracing34]

Hi guys.  
  firts reply for me
So like many peoples i've got the ROD and then i use the air gun and also the toothpick and it works really .
This morning i 've been reading some topicks :
 one french guys (yes i'm french ) ,got a xbox 360 totaly dead ,he use the air gun many times and then the ROD got the last word of that story ,but that guy find a solution ,he use the air gun for put straight those transistors under the GPU ,and he put a RAD and a FAN of GRAPHIC CARD ,he put also on each RAM  one RAD this is the topic  in french url/http://gueux-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=147871/url

i hope it help i try tomorow i think this is a good solution .

[Biablo]

Hello

So i turned on my Xbox360 and after playing for a few Minutes in GOW, the picture froze. I turned off and back on teh console and i get a Freezinfg Logo, i tried it a few times and then teh 3 Red lights of Dead appeared. I sent it too repairs too 2 Local store labs and they said it can`t be repaired.
What do you think is teh problem, and can it be fixed with the heat gun or a better option, i work in an Electronic company so i have access to a good soldering equipment if that can help.

thanks

[FlAWD]

QUOTE(Tito2k6 @ Aug 11 2006, 02:09 PM)

I can testify that this is a problem that many may not encounter for some time.  

I had my system since December with no problems.  It started hanging up in games and during startup just last week.  Then two days ago it locked up and I got the red lights/102 code when I restarted it.

My point is this:  My system has rarely been moved, is well ventilated, and worked perfectly for 8 months.  Therefore, ALL 360 OWNERS should be aware that this can happen at any time.  I don't want to start spreading fear, but you could be next.

I know many had problems at launch, but MS's problems may actually become worse as time goes on.

I thought I was one of the lucky ones.

PS  Interestingly enough, when I leave it on for several minutes with the red lights flashing, I can usually get it to start.  It's like I need to buy some starter fluid or something  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

"Maybe I should get out and push!"

Just wanted to add in, that works for me also. If it's cold then I get the error, but if I leave it on for 10-15 minutes, and restart it, then it works fine. I will be trying the heat gun soon.

[dokworm]

QUOTE(Ashiato @ Feb 26 2007, 05:16 AM)

i didnt i finaly got some artic silver 5 but im finding it REALLY hard to put the Xs back on! i cant seem to do it!! (they look alittle bent from when i removed them...) any tips? i wish i didnt have to put them back on!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)  i just stuck my finger in the paste and now i have to clean it and do it over again! i give up for the night...

I would just chuck them and replace the bottom clamp with bolts - I reckon the clamps are adding to the problem anyway, see here:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=588032
If you don't want to go the whole hog with board standoffs etc. another bloke just used countersink bolts through the bottom of the mobo up to the heatsink clamp on the top, real easy to do and moves the clamping pressure from the middle of the chip to the perimeter of the chip which might be a good thing - but I can't find the picture now.

[kutkinder]

The reheat worked a trick thanks everyone

[Caddenmods]

Does anyone anywhere know how to fix an E73???

I installed a watercooling system, and everything went smoothly.  It worked perfectly. I was so happy know it gives me an E73.

I can't send it back to MS so I don't know what the hell to do???

I want my baby up and running again!

[FahadSaid]

Ok, there's a new level of the Ring of Death. In this video, it's going 1-2-1-2, that kind of pattern.

Maybe there's a new level of the Ring of Death, possibly 4 stage? (ex. 3 red lights would be 3-3-3-3)

It's always possible.

[jaluka]

I have read more than i can take in   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I have followed the 0102 thread now and done alot of searching etc, the time has come to try this method out  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I had three boxes to try to fix for friends and one of my own (think ill keep mine untill last  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

Anyway this is what happened i wrapped one in towels and left it turned on untill it cut outwhich did bring some life into the console for about 2hrs then 3 lod so i used the heatgun method warming up the board low,medium 5mins (approx 2.5 mins top & bottom) at each then 3 mins on high heat which was 600 degrees celcius (1100 farenhieght).
The one which showed life after the towel method is still working after 6 days.
Thats the good news out the way.......
Two others which i just went straight into the heatgun method now give me a 0020 error (overheating) i am not sure if i damaged the board etc or solved the 0102 problem and uncovered the 0020 problem, any info or advice on this would be appreciated!
And the last one MINE as i reached the temperature to soften the solder i caught the gpu with the nozzle of the gun and conveniently moved it 30mm off its position  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)  i dont put the nozzle that close just accidental, so be careful you have been warned.....
All were put back together with artic silver 5 and cleaned and primed with artic silver cleaner & primer.

Are the 2 which now show 0020 beyond repair or can anyone recommend what i should try.

Many thanks to all who add to these pages

Mark

[curranzor]

Ok, this is a reply to jaluka. 1)You wrapped your xbox 360 in towels? what? why?.....logic?..just curious.
2)600 degrees is WAY to hot to be heating up a 360...even more so because of how long you did it, and how close you were to the bored, you can be a good inch-2 inches above. Now as to 0020, do you still get the 3 red? it says possible overheating on the forms, but i dont think that would be the cause theres too many "overheating" codes. I think that you quite possibly fried a chip on the mobo with that 600 degree heat gun of yours.

[clicker666]

I'm working on mine right now.  I've removed the old heat sinks, cleaned, applied AS, and scrounged some thermal pad material off of an old Radeon X850XT stock cooler.  Using M5x10 bolts and a nice collection of little plastic washers I picked up at the Source (Radio Shack) reattached.  I put some ramsinks on the top chips, and a cooling chip on the southbridge.

Now I'm stuck.

1.  I don't have enough thermal material for the RAM to reach the metal shielding on the bottom of the board.   I think my bolt heads are a bit too thick and the board might be sitting just a touch too high.  Can I cut away large portions of the shielding on the bottom to allow the ramsinks and bolt heads to clear the shield?

2.  I picked up a 40 mm fan for the CPU.  I assume I want it on the non-ducted side, but which was should the air blow - towards or away from the CPU?

3.  I also picked up a 60 mm fan for the front right of the case.  Blowing in or sucking air out?

That's all I've got for now.

[clicker666]

Update:

I had limited success.  I was able to play NFS: Most Wanted for about 15 minutes.  Then I decided to see if I could play an HDDVD.  Locked up.  Three red lights again.  

Oh well, I guess I'll just replace the unit.

[lazzeri]

QUOTE(clicker666 @ Mar 26 2007, 05:08 AM)

Update:

I had limited success.  I was able to play NFS: Most Wanted for about 15 minutes.  Then I decided to see if I could play an HDDVD.  Locked up.  Three red lights again.  

Oh well, I guess I'll just replace the unit.

   Have you ever tried the "Rubber mod"? It´s quite bizarre, i know. But it worked like a charm for me. My box was 14 months old (dec/05), got 3RL on friday and i´ve fixed it on saturday with the quoted mod. My box was only dead for 16 hours, it was almost a nap! :-D

http://forums.xbox-s...o...591894&st=0

   Good luck to you all. And again, it´s a bizarre approach, but WAY less bizarre than the Towel trick, eh? :-D

   Regards,
        Lazzeri

[nightmare84j28]

QUOTE(lazzeri @ Mar 27 2007, 02:07 AM)

Have you ever tried the "Rubber mod"? It´s quite bizarre, i know. But it worked like a charm for me. My box was 14 months old (dec/05), got 3RL on friday and i´ve fixed it on saturday with the quoted mod. My box was only dead for 16 hours, it was almost a nap! :-D

http://forums.xbox-s...o...591894&st=0

   Good luck to you all. And again, it´s a bizarre approach, but WAY less bizarre than the Towel trick, eh? :-D

   Regards,
        Lazzeri

You know when its summer time and its REALLY hot outside and you can't stand to be anywhere but in front of a cooler? Wrap yourself in a few jumpers and blankets and you might start to feel like them ram chips do when you stick peices of rubber on them  

The only thing that rubber is doing is pushing the ram tightly onto the board (perhaps touching a few bad joints)

You will cook the ram in no time, don't do it.

[clicker666]

Here's an odd scenario.  I went out and bought a new core system, and an extended warranty, figured I wasn't going to mess with backups or anything.  

I took my old system, sat it down and plugged it in.  Unplugged the fan and let it overheat.  Plugged it back in and put it in my son's room connected to his STV.  Worked fine, in a vertical position.  Put it in his entertainment center sideways - 3ROL.  Put it vertical, worked again.

Played GOW for about 30 mins no problem.  (Except the screen is really small LOL)  I've had NFS:MW running in demo mode for about 2 hours now.  Weird.  Oh well, the kid should be happy.

[ExitRooster]

Hey all - Sorry to add to the length of this topic - but why start a new one when this one exists...

SO.....

For the last few times - My 360 had this claimed ring of death - Shutting it off and restarting it usually worked.  Till the other day - Now, it's just totally dead - ring of death is all I get, no matter how long I try, no matter what position the 360 sits.

So I call MS support - Long story short - They want me to PAY $137 to have it repaired!!  (because the warranty expired in Feb/06).  Is that total crap or what??  Is there anyone I can speak with that will handle this matter, or am I totally screwed.  Box is totally stock.  But from what I read here and elsewhere - manufacturing process is 100% to blame - WHY should I have to pay for that?  Looking for help here..  Anyone?