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[Chancer]

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also im getting an X3 and xlcd, it looks hottt

before you buy your wonderchip you might want to try get an answer fromXecuter on whether this chip holds Lframe to ground permanent in the 1.6 boxes. (no concrete answer on this with the X3 yet) If it does then modding a 1.6 box with one will cause excess current flow in turn causing long term problems. Xenium, DuoX etc don't use this method so are a safer long term bet in a 1.6 unless you do the mod with the 680 ohm resistor
Your comments about softmodding seem to indicate that you are only 4 years old. So I think you should apologise to any " Jerks Lesbians and Poor people."

[Pizza Pizz]

I must be a poor lesbian jerk then........

I used to diss the softmodders but have eaten humble pie about 3 weeks or so ago

Yes I rebuilt the lpc on 1 1.6 crystal - fitting a duo-x 1 - well the on/off didn't work coz it's a duo 1 but worked

the second 1.6 crystal I did the uber softmod and fuck me it does work well - over 2 weeks later I start her up and no clock loop - straight to evox. Like I said then and I say now softmods have come a long way

ps they was 1.6a's - samsung ram made in August 2004

softmod not exactly ideal for serious modders but never will I dismiss this option - more so on 1.6's with lpc needing rebuilds and the shall I or shan't I put a resisitor on there / track cutting for some mods like Chancer said

[EYOB]

I realize, that in order to use any other mod chip besides the XBIT, I have to learn about the chip.  I already know alot about the XBIT.  Also, I can use USB instead of CD's.  I, along with others are standard users.  All I need to do, is figure out how to solder.

But I have one Xbox, that can be modded by the screw in method.  I have the chip, but I can't screw it in, until I get the solder out of the d0 holes.  Maybe I could try to solder with that.  I dunno.

How would I solder an Xbox to my mother board ??  Just solder the LPC to some wires, and the wires to the d0 point or what ??

How did you guys learn about this stuff ??

I know some ppl in the military that could desolder my Xbox, so I can screw in my Xbit.  I'm gonna ask them to do it, because they are pro's at this stuff.  I doubt they would know how to solder the modchip in, so I just want them to desolder my Xbox so I can screw it in.

I'm gonna screw in this modchip, unless I can figure out how to solder sometime soon.

So, how did you guys first learn to solder, and what's the basic idea of soldering a chip to the Xbox ??

Thanks for the advice.

[itsmee129]

QUOTE (Chancer @ Nov 29 2004, 06:31 PM)

before you buy your wonderchip you might want to try get an answer fromXecuter on whether this chip holds Lframe to ground permanent in the 1.6 boxes. (no concrete answer on this with the X3 yet) If it does then modding a 1.6 box with one will cause excess current flow in turn causing long term problems. Xenium, DuoX etc don't use this method so are a safer long term bet in a 1.6 unless you do the mod with the 680 ohm resistor Your comments about softmodding seem to indicate that you are only 4 years old. So I think you should apologise to any " Jerks Lesbians and Poor people."

ive got a 1.0 , sorry for the confusion

[Noodle03]

Man this is the solderless haters thread... sorry to give a differnet opinion but granted it was my only my first mod but I got the Xenium Ice solderless package and this thing is tight as a rock.  The d0 point is in there solid and so is the adaptor.  

I have moved my box to multiple friends houses in the past 3 or 4 weeks and it still boots fine and works great.

I understand that soldering is much more solid but if the solderless options were so bad do you really think they would still be selling so well after this long even with the word of mouth from this site?

I could be wrong but what if the origonal poster was just looking to do installs localaly?  it would be much easier and not much moving around (shipping wise) to do installs like that.

Also once he installs the chips and or software and verifies it works he doesn't have to offer any more free help.  Sure it would be to his benifit to do so but he doesn't have to.

Verify it works and explain how to use the OS or other software and after that it's not your problem.  The waranty has already been voided and hopefully explained to the customer.

I'm not saying that's a good way to go about it but if the end user does something to screw it up after you made sure it worked it isn't your fault unless you are offering your customers some sort of warranty yourself.

[EYOB]

OK, I hear you all.  But, how the FUCK do I learn to solder ??

I don't want to go to some tech school just to learn to hack my Xbox, and at the same time I don't want to fuck up the Xbox.  Soldeless means less chance I'll mess it up with solder all over the place.

I work on a base, and I know some ppl that could solder and desolder.

Maybe if I tell them how to do it, they could do it for me.  I dunno if that could work.

How does a "newb" like myself figure this stuff out ??

[EYOB]

QUOTE (Noodle03 @ Nov 30 2004, 10:19 AM)

Man this is the solderless haters thread... sorry to give a differnet opinion but granted it was my only my first mod but I got the Xenium Ice solderless package and this thing is tight as a rock.  The d0 point is in there solid and so is the adaptor.   I have moved my box to multiple friends houses in the past 3 or 4 weeks and it still boots fine and works great. I understand that soldering is much more solid but if the solderless options were so bad do you really think they would still be selling so well after this long even with the word of mouth from this site? I could be wrong but what if the origonal poster was just looking to do installs localaly?  it would be much easier and not much moving around (shipping wise) to do installs like that. Also once he installs the chips and or software and verifies it works he doesn't have to offer any more free help.  Sure it would be to his benifit to do so but he doesn't have to. Verify it works and explain how to use the OS or other software and after that it's not your problem.  The waranty has already been voided and hopefully explained to the customer. I'm not saying that's a good way to go about it but if the end user does something to screw it up after you made sure it worked it isn't your fault unless you are offering your customers some sort of warranty yourself.

I'm not sure, why I wrote that previous post.  

But noodle is correct.  I'm looking to do local installations.  Friends of Friends, and fellow Marines that I work with.

Like noodle said, I want to install the chip, BIOS, and OS, maybe even a HDD.  Tell them to take care of it, that's about it.

So, I'm guessing all the ppl with posts about soldering is the best method, thought, I was doing a professional buisness.

I guess it is ok to order the XBIT in stock.

I think the only thing I have to worry about, is desoldering old Xbox's.  So I can screw in the chips.  I had another Marine ask me today about modding his Xbox.

I told him that I would order when I get the chance.  I have the chance right now, but I'd like to get more opinions from the forum users....

[pxpx]

let's not start bashing the solderless options here.  this past weekend i went on a road trip to visit some buddies i was up north and was zooming down a back road when a deer jumped out into the road.  i slammed on the brakes and my xbox came flying off the back seat, SLAMMED into the back of my seat and dropped onto the bare metal floor of the jeep with a crash.  i don't think i could have thrown it harder against something.  when i got to my buddies i plugged the box in she boot right up.  the xapter that i screwed in there held rock solid.  i think solderless options got a bad rap with the early version xboxs as they had he lpc ports filled with solder...this easily allowd the pogo pins to slide around....on newer version boxes the lpc holes that are empty the solderless adapters, if properly screwed down ( i always use a slightly bigger screw than comes packaged ) should not come loose for hell or high water.

[defmonk]

How some uneducated hack could actually turn something he doesn't even understand into a lucrative business is extremely sad.

You're definately out of your league if you don't know how to solder; even more so, do not know what kind of chip to buy or how it's used. (it really doesn't take much research to figure all of this out)

Then again, go ahead and hack your way into the modding business, so that once you've completely raped their xbox, they can just take it to someone else that still may or may not know what they are doing or better yet, figure it out on their own.

w0rd

[statikshock]

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You can't mod an Xbox without knowing at least the basics on the above items.
Go to the FAQ first and READ READ READ READ.

[BAP1130]

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I had never soldered anything before in my life! but with enough reading of tutorials, forums etc... you LEARN how to solder. its pretty simply: lean solder iron against both objects, then add the solder once they are nice and warm. anyway try SEARCHING for tutorials on how to solder.

I couldn't agree more with you...even before I bought my first chip, I did a LOT of research into where everything was and so forth. My first modchip was a solderless, and even as an inexperienced noob I realized that there is no way it will stay in. Sure enough, it poped out every couple of days until I finally ruined the mobo completely trying to get it to stay in.

After that, I decided to learn how to solder...I didn't even know what soldering was, but again a LOT of reading in these forums helped. Reading as in searching and researching, not posting 10000000 new topics on how to solder.

I bought a test/practice board for 10 bucks, learned how to solder in an hour, and I installed my first solder mod, and I havent had a problem with it since. I've done a bunch of solder mods, and once you get the hang of it, they are painless and relatively easy to do.

A final thought: I agree with everyone about the shipping issues for solderless mods, etc...But I can't stress enough that suprisingly, it is much easier to screw someones xbox up with a solderless that a solder mod (Once you learn how to solder).

[Sac2K4]

[EYOB]

I guess I'll do a google search on soldering, with all the bitching goin on....

[statikshock]

we're not  bitching mate, just telling you to go and learn what you want to. no-one can just tell you how to solder, you have to go and try it and learn through experience.

so stop being a friggin sook and try being a bit more pro-active hey?

[EYOB]

Can someone translate the word 'sook' for me ??