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[G0t M4xx 21]

I've had the joy of opening 3 different xbox 360's so far, none of the three had this foil on teh 'sink. Well I've actually seen the guts of about 5 or 6 different ones, but only three I actually removed the gpu and cpu heatsinks to replace the thermal compound with AS5. I haven't yet seen one crash or overheat in person (except the ones at walmart, those things are always not working). I once hit the reset button on the one at walmart like 50 times or so until it  finally made it crash... then casually walked away...

It seems like an isolated problem, like just a random manufacturing defect

This post has been edited by G0t M4xx 21: Mar 10 2006, 06:23 AM

[F1R3STORM]

QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Mar 10 2006, 12:25 AM)

 (except the ones at walmart, those things are always not working). I once hit the reset button on the one at walmart like 50 times or so until it  finally made it crash... then casually walked away...

roflmao!!!!

[deakphreak]

What do ya know... now that i had to take my Full Auto game back and not fully play it since  my xbox was having issues i read this.  Just opened mine up and  there is the foil.  All the thermal past is off the other heatsink, not sure what that one is, but its just touching the bare metal... sigh.  Anyone have suggestions of what thermal paste is the best to get and where to pick up some?

[Lamer123]

The worst part is that you have to void your warranty in order to find out if you have a defective product .

[deakphreak]

QUOTE(Lamer123 @ Mar 10 2006, 06:56 AM)

The worst part is that you have to void your warranty in order to find out if you have a defective product .

Well if its not working right and you havnt opened it, then just send it back

[Questioner]

With all the discoveries, lately , it's obvious progress is being on made on hacking/modding these suckers, or at least a lot more people are trying.

[Glock.45]

QUOTE(deakphreak @ Mar 10 2006, 06:48 AM)

What do ya know... now that i had to take my Full Auto game back and not fully play it since  my xbox was having issues i read this.  Just opened mine up and  there is the foil.  All the thermal past is off the other heatsink, not sure what that one is, but its just touching the bare metal... sigh.  Anyone have suggestions of what thermal paste is the best to get and where to pick up some?

newegg.com

Don't use too much.  There is a great tut in the hardware forums somewhere.

[MiDNiGHTS]

I hope this story gets out more and makes some fanboys shut up for once(probably wont happen though). Who knows what other problems occured during the rushed production like bad soldering and etc.

[dmitri]

People are missing the bigger picture..

When you work on an assembly line you are trained *very* well to do your small piece of the picture.

Enter MS.  Hardware that has to *move*  factories at capacity or beyond.  Bonuses for supervisors to hit certain volume levels.  I could be wrong, but I think it was intentional.

[Unregistered007]

anyone who opened their xbox360 and didn't find the foil please report the manufacturing date. I am guesing that the console made in mid December with quieter dvd drive might not have these foils.

[G0t M4xx 21]

The three 360's I opened had all different mfg dates, none had the foil.

1. Bought on launch date, made in early October, Hitachi dvd drive
2. Bought on December 23, made in late November, Toshiba Drive.
3. bought last week, made January 24 2006, Toshiba drive, and still has the eeprom chip... odd

[ruffles_x]

ive already noticed this piece of foil in december, but to me it seemed more like metallic instead of plastic, and when i removed it, the 360 fans become louder, but my problems with hangs in PDZ keep going, until i found that the only way to aleviate this was puting the power brick in an exact position to allow for good ventilation.

So a few days ago y restored this foil to its place and the 360 is now again more silent, so mi guess is that this foil at least in my case is used to fill gaps between the GFX chip and the heatsink, cause as i said before it seemed like it was made of some kind of metallic material.

Just for the record, no other game has ever give me problems, wit or withot foil, only PDZ.

Thanks and sorry for grammar or spelling errors, cause english is not my mother languaje.

This post has been edited by ruffles_x: Mar 10 2006, 08:15 AM

[G0t M4xx 21]

well once you removed the foil did you add more thermal compound? If not, there's your answer.

A sufficient amound of compound must be present otherwise the heat transfer will be jsut as bad, if not worse then with the foil on.

Just go get some Arctic Silver 5

[zilli0n]

I put together a general 'how-to' for anyone who has never applied the compound before at the link below, hope this helps for the warrenty-voiders  

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=467045

[anttimonty]

QUOTE(Moltdar @ Mar 10 2006, 07:21 AM)

shouldn't be someone sueing MS for this because it CLEARLY is their fault then and not some random weird crap going on with the memory or anything.

What is sueing MS gonna help  

I just don't get this mentality that when some firm fucks up they should be sued so that they can suffer even more from their mistakes... Kinda pointless and doesn't help the real problem at all.