ya know fellas, i just cant stop shaking my head in shame at you people.
1)
havent you people learned a damn thing about hardware ? Since when can you shove 1 3ghz processor and a MASSIVE GPu into a 12x8 Shell and expect to get proper ventilation enough to make it run right ? NEVER NEVER has anyone been able to create an NLX style system that didnt heat up like mad. Yes thats what this system is its an NLX or Bookend type case.
Now you go and sit for a minute and get your calculators out and do the math. WTF do think is going to happen when they shove not 1, not 2 but THREE G5 Power PC Processors all running 3ghz into a TINY TINY case along with an incredibly warm running GPU!

ALL cooled by 1 or 2 fans with a some plastic stinking stupid duct work ? 1 fan isnt enough to properly cool 1 CPU like that and you think that 3 CPU's and a GPU can be cooled that way your retarded!
2)
Hasnt your Hardware Experience taught you ANYTHING!!!
NEVER EVER EVER and i mean EVER go out and bu ya new piece of hardware the fucking day it launches for gods sake people dont be some stupid 6 yr old kid on xmas morning who cant wait to get his hands on santa's little gifts! WAIT WAIT AND THEN WAIT MORE!! let the bugs get worked out, and then let them work more bugs out! You will NEVER EVER EVER EVER go buy a piece of hardware like this(and all it is is a proprietary PC) on the day it launches cuz all your asking to have happen is get ass raped. NO company tests their hardware enough these days. I have been in the Distributing and Sales field for long enough to sit down and teach you kids a thing or two about who these companies handle things.
It's all about the $$$$ and how much $$$ they can tell their investors they are making.
It costs MS LESS money to create a shitty 1st revision Xbox360 than it would to wait 3 more months and iron out all the bugs.
It costs them LESS to send out a buggy box they KNOW is prone to hardware failures, yes believe it or not its more provitable for them to handle things this way then to wait and release a stable box. Get the units out to the public get their money and then , THEN let the public come to US with bugs and we will send out patches and/or new units. That way we can not be held liable for any issues caused by our crappy launch hardware because we can go to the public and say see WE fixed the problem and are happy to replace those defective units.
And at no time do they give a rat's ass about you or I and all the money we wasted on this paper weight , all the anger and frustration we went thru . they just do NOT care!
now that you have read this and told yourself "yeah we all know this man why are you even saying it" now turn to your self in the mirror and slap your self in the fucking face a few times really hard and ask your self "If i knew this already then WTH did i buy it!! why!!!" then give yourself one more slap for good measure!
now... issues issues issues how bout some possible fixes,, some have already been posted but i will repeat them as many of you need it repeated over and over.
1)
3 CPU's and a GPU,, HEAT HEAT HEAT this fucker gets HOT! dont look at me like im stupid it gets HOT! Silicon will start to melt and "self destruct" at around 70c. is your box that hot when you put your hand behind it ? hell no it aint! but inside at the CPU die contact point, is it 70c ? you better believe it is.
what is the fix ? VENTILATION!! and MORE FANS! inside the case . we cant add mor fans without voiding the warrenty so we ahve to work on ventiilation.
Get that damn box out of your entertainment center. keep it away from DVD players, VCR's Cable Boxes , Amplifiers/Surround units.
This box needs to be sitting out in the open all by its self.... You need 6-8 inches of air flow on EACH side of this thing. you need 6-8inches on the top and you need 1-2 inches on the bottom,, yes you heard me right you need 2 inches of ventilation on the bottom.
So what do you do ?
Go get a bottle cap lit from all that Mt. Dew you drank to try and win a free xbox and place the xbox on top of 4 of those caps or 5 or 6 just make sure the thing is stable and not going to fall over. This will allow for much better ventilation under your box.
If you cant do that stack up 2 or 3 cd cases under EACH corner of the box and set the box on the corners of the CD cases.. remember we do not want to block the bottom of the Xbox by having the entire CD case UNDER the xbox. use like 1/3 of the cd case to set the xbox on but make sure you do this for each corner of the xbox.
Now if you want to do it properly Walmart use dto sell what they called a monitor Stand. It was an all metal stand about as tall as an xbox and a little wider and it had legs.. it also had a holes in the stand to allow ALOT of airflow thru the base ( they did this for cosmetic reasons nto air flow) i got this a few days after i got my Xbox 1 and let me tell you it dropped my temps by 10deg on the xbox as it allows for MASSIVE air flow all around the unit. ill take a picture and post it here for those who want one. but you guys MUST MUST MUST give this box ALOT of ventilation! ALOT!
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DONT STAND THIS THING ON ITS END!!! regardless of what micropoop thinks or says or what sony says about their PS2 2 things are going to happen when you stand it up on end. 1) all that heat inside is going to go to the top of the case which is where your HD is located. and guess what boys and girls. Hard drives get hot enough already, let alone when you stick it on a furnace. HD Failures and maybe alot of the failures here can be attributed to having the box stood up on end and ALL that heat just cooking the hard drive. Data can not survive on a platter when its that hot,, it will corrupt. 2) you WILL scratch the holy living crap out of your brand new $50 games. again regardless of what you think or anyone else thinks when you stand a DVD rom on its side it can not stop the stick from spinning in the tray, ya know when you stop the game or eject the cd listen to it before that disk ejects,,, guess what you hear ? you hear that DVD scrapping in the stray scratching the holy crap out of itself. NEVER EVER stand a dvd rom on its side... EVER!! not only that but once again all that heat is not being directed up to your DVD tray and guess what happens when a DVD gets REALLY hot.. you start to get read errors. Read Errors caused but an overheated DVD Player but also errors from an overheated DVD DISK. CD's and DVD's are an made of an organic material inside, and what happens when they get too hot or too cold

they wont play properly.
people i am not hee to tell you this is an issue surrounded user erros im here to make you think about wth your doing when you got home and just sat this thing on the floor with little or no ventilation. the damn thing is gunna bomb out and give you errors and more than likely perminent errors. total hardware damage!
You MUST think of this device as a super computer cuz thats what it is, and they need ventilation and care given to them. you wouldnt slap your pc into a crowded corner with no venilation would you ? you wouldnt turn the fans down on your cpu so low that the thing just got hotter than hell would you ? no i didnt think so,, so.. you must never ever do that to this.. infact this thing requires 2x's the amount of cooling that your PC does and its 3x's as powerful for god's sake.
again ther eare 3 CPU's and a GPU in there that is more powerful than most of you people's PC's.
again, MS knew about this crap long before it was released.
I will have one but ya know what i aint gunna have one before spring .. why ? cuz they WILL have released better versions of the box by then.
not only that but every friggin game there is is already on the XBOX or PC and most of you probably already played them so why the hell go pay more money for the same exact damn games ? come on are you stupid ? Kameo oohh ahhh what an awesome solo launch title that didnt already come out for PC or XBOX 1 jesus all they are doing is rehashing games that already have been there and done that.
im sorry for sounding like a real dickhead here people but your all sitting here wondering why they are crashing when you all knew this wasnt going to be a smooth ride. ESPECIALLY when Xbox-scene has for weeks now been reporting that Store units where crashing and locking.. so you went out and got one of the same units ? you gotta be kidding me, for those who saw store units were locking and you went and got one anyways you deserve all the bullcrap that you have gotten yourself into your truly do.
people just wait and let M$ figure out whats truly going on.. and use your brain when you get these boxes..
for the guy who slapped his and then proceeded to tell everyone else to do it cuz it "knocked the gpu or whatever is not mounted properly, back into place" you definately win the idiot of the day award you moron you deserve to be banned, you really do.
quit bitching about the boxes take them back get your money back and wait til spring to get one.
This post has been edited by LESTAT: Nov 24 2005, 08:46 AM