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Deftech

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2005, 05:06:00 PM »

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But anyways, I doubt we will ever see a game from Valve on the 360 so wtf is he bitching about?

HalfLife 3 will be out in 2017, so we must be getting HL 2  beerchug.gif

do they even make any other games?
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2005, 05:26:00 PM »

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do they even make any other games?


No they dont actually  blink.gif
Its funny, alot of ppl like halflife and i never got into it. I just thought it was boring. I guess ill find out when the xbox version is out.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2005, 05:45:00 PM »

They do have a halflife for xbox (the original) but it's not as good as Halo... though I don't like FPS period... I did enjoy HL on the pc back in the day more than say quake.. but that was just personal preferences.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2005, 06:30:00 AM »

U sure there was an xbox version of hl1, im sure its just ps2 and dc (although the dreamcast one is pretty rare)?
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2005, 08:14:00 AM »

maybe hes mistaking HL2 coming on xbox for HL 1.  and half life on the ps2 is what HL on the dreamcast should have been.  they finished HL on the DC completly but then just never published it so it never actually out on DC.  sad too because i was looking foward to the game on DC
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2005, 10:08:00 AM »

Many people seem to prefer shifting focus to the appearance of a person, instead of analyzing what he/she is saying. I don't know what a guys' supposed fatness contributes to a discussion in "Hardware Chat", but I guess it's easier to talk about that and not about the technical side of things. You'd expect better from a guys with "tech" in his name and a moderator (in a different thread).

For a developer, having one console with two hardware setups is a bad thing. It means you need more time to focus on compatibility, and have less to spend on engine features and game logic. Not being able to trust on a HDD for gamesaves and downloadable content isn't that big of an issue offcourse: the SDK mostly takes care of that. The danger lies in different hardware configurations becoming "acceptable behaviour" for Nintendo, Sony and MS, so that in a generation or two console development will become just like PC development, where updates to the executable are sometimes needed to even play the game in single-player mode.

As you might have guessed, updating the executable of a game on DVD-ROM is a bit hard.

With MS choice to keep using the old DVD media, space becomes an issue. Using 9 GB DVD's is more expensive then 4.3 GB ones, and if you don't have a scratch disc to extract your compressed high-detail textures and 5.1 sound streams on... you can figure that one out. Having "freedom" in games means having your resources quickly available.

If it's really true that there will be "HDD-only" games then that will suck for developers (dilemma of broader market vs. better graphics/gameplay/whatever), for end-users (customer pays, confusion) and MS will laugh.
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2005, 10:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(fghjj @ Aug 30 2005, 02:19 PM)
Many people seem to prefer shifting focus to the appearance of a person, instead of analyzing what he/she is saying. I don't know what a guys' supposed fatness contributes to a discussion in "Hardware Chat", but I guess it's easier to talk about that and not about the technical side of things. You'd expect better from a guys with "tech" in his name and a moderator (in a different thread).
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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2005, 11:06:00 AM »

QUOTE(fghjj @ Aug 30 2005, 12:19 PM)
Many people seem to prefer shifting focus to the appearance of a person, instead of analyzing what he/she is saying. I don't know what a guys' supposed fatness contributes to a discussion in "Hardware Chat", but I guess it's easier to talk about that and not about the technical side of things. You'd expect better from a guys with "tech" in his name and a moderator (in a different thread).
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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2005, 11:19:00 AM »

I apologize if I responded in a immature way, but if he read every single one of my posts, he'd see that I asked why Newell is whining seeing as he hasnt ever once said hes making games for either the 360 or ps3.

hes sitting on the sidelines and bitching, making him not much better than website editors that have nothing better to do.

Until he gets his hands dirty and shows us he is indeed working on a 360 project and wants to support it, but expected more out of the system, I will then respect his opinion.

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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2005, 12:53:00 PM »

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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2005, 01:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(Deftech @ Aug 30 2005, 12:59 PM)
Yeah HL  1 and 2 were good, but those 2 games financially dont account for others from devs that get pumped out much quicker and bring in a hell of alot more $$.

Ummm, you do know that the original Counter-Strike was and might still be the most played Online FPS. Thats right Galo 2 doesnt even come close. The only reason the numbers are going down is because everyone is switching to Counter-Strike Source. Now, I hate to be an ass here but whats 2+2.................thats right 4, just like how you have to own HL1 to play CS and you need to own HL2 to play CS Source tongue.gif
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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2005, 01:24:00 PM »

lol you took one sentence out of that and turned into something stupid

the point is Valve doesnt pump out the games, and if you think HL 2 sales eclipses some of those huge titles found on a console....

saying its the most played is meaningless in relation to the point im making.

gee the sims is popular, does that mean the developer will now be vocal about the 360 and its problems even though they arent developing a game for it? thats what fatass Newell is doing.

3 Splinter cells in 3 years on "multiple" systems, 2 halflifes and a CS in what? 6 years? lol

and you want to compare the financial outcome? muwhahahaha

your comment to me was irrelvant and taken out of context.

Im really starting to worry about you man, nothing but trolling lately.

LOL at you even bringing up halo 2..wtf?




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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Aug 30 2005, 03:20 PM)
Ummm, you do know that the original Counter-Strike was and might still be the most played Online FPS. Thats right Galo 2 doesnt even come close. The only reason the numbers are going down is because everyone is switching to Counter-Strike Source. Now, I hate to be an ass here but whats 2+2.................thats right 4, just like how you have to own HL1 to play CS and you need to own HL2 to play CS Source tongue.gif
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Deftech

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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2005, 01:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Aug 30 2005, 05:37 PM)
Does HL1 come with the Xbox version of CS?
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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2005, 02:08:00 PM »

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Im really starting to worry about you man, nothing but trolling lately.

Nothing to worry about here. Just extra crabbiness since I just got back to work from my long vacation beerchug.gif
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