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[Carlo210]

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jul 3 2005, 05:10 AM)

to answer your questions Carlo

[Carlo210]

QUOTE(guitardork864 @ Jul 4 2005, 05:01 AM)

weed, don't do that, because it will make you even dumber than you are now.

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QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Jul 5 2005, 06:01 PM)

Thanks for the reply. It's good to know now that the xbox360 will be doing high quality upconversions (yes, upconversions).

[Carlo210]

I was just saying that it is considered an upconversion just because the resolution is high, not that I consider it an upconversion (which I do because it technically is in the linguo of it all).

Also, 1080i might share the same general amount of khz per 60hz as 540p, but that doesn't make it the same in any other way.
1080i consists of more pixels in a different way than 540p or 720p since it's interlaced.

Also, converting 720p to 1080i is one of the easiest conversions besides 480i to 480p. The resolutions are different, but the overall requirements for the hardware are very similar.
Progressive scan is more intensive on hardware, but 720s lower resolution makes up for it compared to a high resolution 1080.

Its like this: (to make it simple)
Seven Twenty Res. = 1
Progressive Scan = 2
1+2=3

Ten Eighty Res. = 2
Interlaced = 1
2+1=3

Now I'm not trying to make that a big deal, I admit it's nothing really. I know its nothing technical or really correct, but its just something I've been trying to say Hardware intesive wise.

And I'm not sure how hard scaling a 720 image to 1080 would be, but if you can play HD 720p stuff in 480i, then 1080i shouldn't be much of a problem.

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QUOTE(thax @ Jul 6 2005, 12:36 AM)

1080i isn't 540p because the aspect ratio would be incorrect. In addition the resolution is still 1920x540 per field, which contains 1.03 Megapixels every 1/60th of a second. 800x600 has less than half the information, 0.48 Megapixels every 1/60th of a second.

[Carlo210]

Well, all I can afford now is a 599$ (canadian) 27" 4:3 Crt Hdtv. I don't mind letterboxing to 16:9 at all.
All the tv pushes out is 1080i and can convert to 720p etc (not a real problem now since xbox360 will do conversions for us anyways).

After all this "1080i sucks" talk I've been trying to look for a lcd tv, but they are much too expensive. The only 720p creen I could find which is in my price range is a 17" Monitor (samsung lcd) with 8ms refresh rate, but losing 10 inches isn't worth the progressive scan. I am looking to put my tv on top of my dresser in m room, so putting a 17" monitor there instead would look just silly. It's also much too small to watch from a 4 foot distance.
Baasically, I'd rather have 1080i and a bigger screen than 720p and a much smaller screen (and impractical one, at that).

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[nj12nets]

well honestly right now im on a lil 13 inch color tv probably 430I i guess and its a pretty good picture. does it do justice to the xbox games now? idk but i cant afford any versiono f hdtv right now but it doesnt mean it would be  a bad picture. just not as great as hdtv. like its still not bad but is there reli a great difference?

[Shawn_]

hmmm, my tv does 1080i native, and upconverts anything else lower. i don't really see a difference, playing a 720p game converted to 1080i.

One thing for sure is, some games look worse on my tv. Halo 2 looks like crap, where as atv vs mx in 1080i is amazing. I dunno why. well i guess really its only Halo 2 that looks bad. full of jaggies.

[Carlo210]

Well, as you can see, the talk about the anandtech article is, well, depleted, so if you are going to post in the thread, at least post about something.

And yes there is a huge difference in HD vs non-hd. It isn't a big deal for nothing.
And yes your picture might look nice but that is just because it's on a small screen and the pixels are closer together and smaller.
Basically, yes 1080i is nice, 720p is better, but not for the current price differences (many of us can agree on that).

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QUOTE(nj12nets @ Jul 6 2005, 07:38 PM)

well honestly right now im on a lil 13 inch color tv probably 430I i guess and its a pretty good picture. does it do justice to the xbox games now? idk but i cant afford any versiono f hdtv right now but it doesnt mean it would be  a bad picture. just not as great as hdtv. like its still not bad but is there reli a great difference?