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CattyKid

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« on: June 11, 2005, 01:10:00 PM »

Speculation.  Please, no flames

If MS decides to go with HD-DVD in their new console, at my own personal urging, it could have many ramifications, most of which are positive.  If MS decides to go with HD-DVD, then it would cause many plants to convert to this standard and DVD makers would scramble to make discs that are true HD.  This could, very easily, put Sony in trouble with their so called "Blu-Ray" which I consider to be the bane of my existence.

Even though it may cost a little more, I think this would be an incredible and feasible idea that could put MS at the top, even though it will cost them more money.  They would have the first player that can accept the new discs and videophiles, not just gamers, would scramble to pick it up.


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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2005, 03:38:00 PM »

Putting HD-dvd in the 360 will delay the launch quite a bit, increase development and game costs and system costs, drive will probably be slower, wasted space on dvd since games will never fill a hd dvd.....................

if MS goes with HD-dvd then they will lose some of the long term advantages that they over sony. For example, cheaper to manufacture game system thus making the price always competitive compared to the ps3. It sure would be funny if the 360 system price drops on the ps3 launch or even sellling the 360's with halo 3 bundled biggrin.gif

Size doesn't matter, its all about the performance.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2005, 08:50:00 PM »

I don't understand... Who cares about HD-DVD. It is the infurior product, compared to Blu-Ray. I don't know 15-20 gb or 54 gbs. Hmmmmm..... I have a friend who went to one of Sony's tradeshows in Las Vegas. He said that while he was there Sony had Spider-Man 2 Blu-Ray on a huge projector screen. He said that the picture was so clear that it made the movie look like it was filmed on a kodek camera.


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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2005, 01:22:00 AM »

I dont really care if it has hd-dvd, which it wont. DVD is fast, cheap, and we know it works. I would trust a current gen DVD drive over a first gen HD-DVD drive any day.

I dont think storage for games will be an issue. The only drawback is not being able to play HD-DVD movies in our Xbox when/if they start coming out.
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nj12nets

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2005, 05:39:00 AM »

first of the size of the discs are now even since they make a triple layer hd-dvd disc which is 50 gb I think.Blu-ray also has its problems like if you move it with alot of force the data points will collapse or if you like hit it too hard or bend it you lose all data.

these hd-dvds or bluray discs will not be out for another while and will not be popular for a long time.  dvd just started becoming more popular over vhs but vhs is still around.  so well have vhs, dvd, dvd-hd/blueray.  noones heard of the last 2 plus you need a new player for blu-ray.

hd-dvd is more cost effective but it will not do anything in this generation as the switch of formats is at least 4-5 years away
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2005, 12:56:00 PM »

QUOTE(nj12nets @ Jun 15 2005, 05:50 AM)
first of the size of the discs are now even since they make a triple layer hd-dvd disc which is 50 gb I think.Blu-ray also has its problems like if you move it with alot of force the data points will collapse or if you like hit it too hard or bend it you lose all data.
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ninjax

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2005, 01:13:00 PM »

An 800GB DVD has been patented recently, which blows the doors off of any Blu-Ray media out there.  DVD is still considerably faster then Blu-Ray as far as search times and load times are concerned.  HDDVD is still DVD, and is fully backwards compatible with normal DVD's in every case I have heard.  As far as I am concerned DVD will remain to be the format for a very, very long time.

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Iomega Corporation announced that the United States Patent & Trademark Office (USPTO) recently issued a highly notable patent to Iomega for its work with nano-technology and optical data storage. On April 12, 2005, U.S. Patent No. 6,879,556 titled Method and Apparatus for Optical Data Storage was issued to Iomega. This patent is the first in a series of nano-technology-based subwavelength optical data storage patents sought by Iomega.

The patent covers a novel technique of encoding data on the surface of a DVD by using reflective nano-structures to encode data in a highly multi-level format. This technology, termed AO-DVD (Articulated Optical - Digital Versatile Disc), allows more data to be stored on a DVD and could allow future optical discs to potentially hold 40-100 times more information with data transfer rates 5-30 times faster than today's DVDs, and at similarly low costs.

This invention was recently recognized as a winner of the Nanotech Briefs' Nano 50 awards in its product category. The Nano 50 awards are given to the "best of the best" in the industry - the innovative people and designs that will move nano-technology to key mainstream markets.

Iomega is working to investigate the commercial feasibility of this format and other nano-structural data encoding formats. One possibility being investigated, termed NG-DVD (Nano-Grating - DVD), uses nano-gratings to encode multi-level information via reflectivity, polarization, phase, and reflective orientation multiplexing. Iomega is concurrently evaluating and developing appropriate partners to leverage this intellectual property for producing commercial data storage devices.

"Subwavelength optical data storage can provide an array of mechanisms by which the state of a focused spot of light upon reflection can be precisely changed. This is the key to new commercially interesting multi-level optical data storage that this technology represents," commented Fred Thomas, Chief Technologist, Research and Development, Iomega Corporation.

"The nano-replication technologies that are used to fabricate these structures at low-cost are just emerging from various labs. I believe the scope of Iomega patents issued and pending in this area, in conjunction with these exciting new nano-replication technologies, will make this a fertile area for optical data storage development and innovation for years to come. As high definition content becomes more pervasive, Iomega sees significant technology partnership and licensing opportunities for this intellectual property."

Thomas will present an overview of subwavelength optical data storage technology at the prestigious Information Storage Industry Consortium (INSIC) symposium in July in Monterey, CA.
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2005, 03:01:00 PM »

the advantage which bluray cant even begin to touch is that hddvd can put both standard resolution disks and hd resolution on one disk, meaning that single disk would be playable in BOTH a regular dvd drive and a hd drive. thus it can be seemlessly intergrated into the movie industry with almost no backlash.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2005, 03:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(sunkist @ Jun 16 2005, 03:07 PM)
There are 100GB Blu-Ray disks as well. I never bend, hit or put lots of force on my DVD/CDs so I wouldnt do it to my higher up media either, unless I planned to get new ones. They all have downsides so I say bigger storage is best since thats the only reason these new formats are coming out.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »

QUOTE(mikeandbandit @ Jun 16 2005, 03:12 PM)
the advantage which bluray cant even begin to touch is that hddvd can put both standard resolution disks and hd resolution on one disk, meaning that single disk would be playable in BOTH a regular dvd drive and a hd drive. thus it can be seemlessly intergrated into the movie industry with almost no backlash.
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sunkist

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2005, 04:20:00 PM »

DVDs still are not fully understood by most people, they just buy them cause its hard to find VHS anymore. I have talked to many people who do not knwo what the difference is. HD-DVD will be the easiest to transition to but it will be many years of uglyness as two formats fight for a small niche market. Sucks for the consumer, unless prices drop a lot because of it. Maybe there will be dual readers like DVD+-R drives have become.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2005, 04:55:00 PM »

QUOTE(sunkist @ Jun 16 2005, 11:27 PM)
People moved from VHS to DVD and there was nothing the same, but I am not a BLU-RAY fanboy I just want one format, whichever it is. I think if PS3 has Blu-ray that will be a big push like it did for DVDs but if Xbox releases a new version it wont be as big a push because the "old" DVD version will be cheaper so people will probably just continue to buy that. If they get rid of the old version than the people who first bough an Xbox360 on release day will feel cheated that they have an inferior product.
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2005, 04:55:00 PM »

QUOTE(ninjax @ Jun 16 2005, 04:24 PM)
An 800GB DVD has been patented recently, which blows the doors off of any Blu-Ray media out there.  DVD is still considerably faster then Blu-Ray as far as search times and load times are concerned.  HDDVD is still DVD, and is fully backwards compatible with normal DVD's in every case I have heard.  As far as I am concerned DVD will remain to be the format for a very, very long time.
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nj12nets

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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2005, 06:55:00 PM »

QUOTE(CattyKid @ Jun 16 2005, 07:06 PM)
Is that a typo? 
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sunkist

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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2005, 09:54:00 PM »

You will need a new DVD player to see the High Definition version but not the Standard defenition (or ED) that can be on ther as well form what I have heard. The HD-DVD players may not be as expensive to make though since that are similar to standard DVD players now. Blu-ray DVD players would use very different technology.
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