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[dbldown768]

so if i have an offline xbox and it gets flagged, what happens? Nothing until you sign on to live?

Guess I might have to look into RGH or one of those xk3ys.

[BoNg420]

QUOTE(dbldown768 @ Nov 11 2011, 09:46 AM)

so if i have an offline xbox and it gets flagged, what happens? Nothing until you sign on to live?

Guess I might have to look into RGH or one of those xk3ys.

If your box is flagged it wont necessary be a ban.  Probably depends on how many times it happens because it is possible for legit games to give a false positive.  Though they probably look for people who are unfamiliar with firmware and all the updates that happen.  These would be people who don't reburn their copies of AP25 games and continue to try the game over and over getting flagged each time because they don't understand why their game is saying unsupported disc.

If you were to go with RGH or xk3ys it would probably be cheaper to go RGH, but only if you have all the equipment, but in the end it would probably be cheaper to have someone do it for you below $100 for someone else to do the RGH + cost of chip.  If you don't have your own equipment the RGH hack would probably cost you $25 for the chip, you need a programmer for your nand and possibly to program your RGH chip as well, the programmer for the nand could be anywhere from $20-50 and you could probably get or make one to program the RGH chip for like $5-15 and then you need a soldering iron and solder and other such supplies.

In the end you get more out of the RGH and the xk3y is gonna cost you over $100 and not give you the same functionality the RGH would give.

[Redsquirrel]

A friend of mine booted assassins creed (not the new one, last novembers?) and he didnt have the new firmware. Obviously this flagged his system.

However, he still can go online and play. BUT he cant use his profile in other systems as it says its currupt.

[InsaneNutter]

QUOTE(Redsquirrel @ Nov 11 2011, 05:20 PM)

However, he still can go online and play. BUT he cant use his profile in other systems as it says its currupt.

That's what happens when your console is flagged, saves and profiles signed by that console will only work on that console from now on.

[looneeii]

I don't get it...for those of us who ripped our own bought game does that mean we have to re-rip and then insert a new dae?  Since I thought the rip I did on my own FM4 was 1:1.  Wasn't it?

[joliverio]

Just a few games are worthy to play on Live, it really does not make any sense anymore to have just one console for "everything"; play your backups only in an offline console and original ones in a "Live" console. Your life will be much easier  

[kl1k]

QUOTE(Drefsab @ Nov 11 2011, 01:50 PM)

yup rsg/jtag and then never have to give a damn about firmware, flags, burning discs etc so much easier

So glad I did the rgh to my falcon.

[gabe681]

No surprise here. This kind of change is pretty much expected with a dash update. Thanks for the heads up though.

[klbarnes1]

I don't understad, so we don't have to update our firmware but we have re-burn all ap 2.5 & xgd3 games?  Or just ap 2.5 games, or just xgd3 games?  Or neither?  Does anyone know for sure, I really don't care as I get discs for less then $1/each, so even if I have to burn the same game 10x, it really wouldn't bother me.

[vv uk garf vv]

QUOTE(joliverio @ Nov 11 2011, 05:00 PM)

Just a few games are worthy to play on Live, it really does not make any sense anymore to have just one console for "everything"; play your backups only in an offline console and original ones in a "Live" console. Your life will be much easier  

couldn't agree more  

[pperez664]

Why would anyone go through all that trouble, I think in a coupla months backups will be absolete, atleast for the real gamers. RGH/xkey is the way to go. Seriously how many times this year have you people updated and reburned all your games? no worth the hassle. Burned games are the thing of the past. it was nice being able to play backups, until jtag/rgh/xkey came out, now its just too much hassle.

[klbarnes1]

People go through the trouble because most people want to be able to play their backups online, jtag/rgh/xkey cannot do this (play online), that is why!

[Jumpy_Beans]

Does anyone know if this will affect Hitachi drives since ap2.5 didn't have have an affect on them?

[tomgreen99200]

QUOTE(Jumpy_Beans @ Nov 11 2011, 03:06 PM)

Does anyone know if this will affect Hitachi drives since ap2.5 didn't have have an affect on them?

Correct, most Hitachi drives aren't capable of reading ap2.5. If you have one of those then you are fine.

[AmyGrrl]

QUOTE(klbarnes1 @ Nov 11 2011, 01:36 PM)

I don't understad, so we don't have to update our firmware but we have re-burn all ap 2.5 & xgd3 games?  Or just ap 2.5 games, or just xgd3 games?  Or neither?  Does anyone know for sure, I really don't care as I get discs for less then $1/each, so even if I have to burn the same game 10x, it really wouldn't bother me.

You don't have to update the firmware on the 360. But if you want to play on XBOX Live! then you have to update the firmware. Now sometimes when a new Dashboard/Firmware gets released it includes a new dae.bin file. This file contains the new AP2.5 challenge/responses. This means all AP2.5 Games need to be re-burned with the new responses. I should note here that AP2.5 Games are not true 1:1 backups. We just don't have the space to fit all the responses on a burned discs. There are far to many of them. I find it very funny that people act all surprised when they have to burn AP2.5 Games again. This has happened several times already. Its not anything new.

I was thinking in the future it would be nice if we could dump all the responses for a game to a txt file. Then when a new dashboard comes out with a new dae.bin file. We could then use the new dae.bin and the txt to re-patch the Game's ISO. This way we wouldn't have to rely on others to re-dump the AP2.5 data from a retail disc and provide them for us. Granted I don't fully know all the details of AP2.5. This txt file could be really huge in size for all I know.