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[cheezitman2001]

Hi,

I just got my 360 modded a few days ago, and today I went out and bought some Verbatim DVD+R DL 2.4X DVDs.  I've since produced 2 coasters each for 2 different games.  Each one gets through the development logos and to the title screen before I get a "Disc is unreadable" message.

If I don't try to play the game, the 360 definitely recognizes the disc as the correct game, and I can see the list of achievements and everything, so I'm assuming the problem isn't with the way I'm burning it, but my DVD burner.  I've tried burning with both DVD Decrypter and ImgBurn, and have also tried upgrading the firmware on my DVD burner.  Is there anything blatantly obvious that I'm missing, or should I assume that my DVD burner is dying on me?  I'm running Windows 7, if that matters, but I've never had trouble burning DVDs with it before.  Part of me wants to keep trying and see if I can figure it out, but I'd rather not waste any more DVDs if I don't have to.

Thank you very much.

[Millerboy3]

weird thing for me is i also have windows 7 and have produced 8 coasters so far of verbs. (ouch)  but when i revert back to my windows xp partition and burn it works fine?  i am getting burn errors though only 2 discs have completed burning and one of them gets the same error you are getting.  im going to get a 216dbk and see if that fixes my problem because the pos burner i have now is very hard to work with other than burning dvd's  it doesnt even use its lightscribe properly.

[ichibaka]

Some older 360 dvd drives do tend to get this problem due to weak laser; it could be the laser is dying and need replacement, or it just need a pot calibration. If you have the new lite-on drive, I personally experience this problem with this drive whereas all the fail games work perfectly on my older BenQ drive.

[cheezitman2001]

I got a RROD on my Xbox back in October or so.  When I sent it into Microsoft, don't they just give me back a new 360 completely?  I know I used to have Disc Read Errors on occasion, but I don't any more, and when I picked it up from the guy who modded it, he put in a backup of his to show me that it worked and it played fine, so I don't think the laser is the problem.

I'll try booting into XP and burning, but if that fails, do you have any recommendations on external DVD burners?  I'd rather not spend a ton of money, but I do want to make sure it produces consistent burns.

Thanks very much.

[cheezitman2001]

I just got done burning the disc again in my XP installation, and it stopped at the exact same place again.  Does the fact that the games are stopping at the exact same place each time signify that it's my burner's problem, or is there something wrong with the way I'm burning it?  I might try from another DVD burner later, but I want to make sure that I'm not doing something wrong in my settings before I waste any more DVDs.

Thanks.

[BlueSlingShot]

Are you using abgx to verify if your image is good?

Also are you using a .dvd file when burning and not just burning the iso file itself?
Also when you burn make sure that's ALL the computer's doing, no programs running in the background (virus scanners, etc.).

You could head to your local best buy, pick up a new burner (external for simplicity, plug n play) see if that corrects your problem. That what i picked up when my 360 was flashed and it's great. I use an external LG. If it does than you know it's your old burner. If it doesn't just repack it up and return it.

Sounds though like your burner is screwy.

[cheezitman2001]

I have verified my image with abgx, and it comes back with everything green, so I don't think that's the problem.  I definitely am selecting the .dvd file.  Just to make sure, it's just 2 lines, right? Layerbreak and then the name of the ISO.  Does anything else need to be there?  One thing I've noticed is that ImgBurn always burns it at 2.4X, regardless of if I set it slower, because it says 2.4X is all the discs support.  Also, it sort of alternates between 2.4 and 2.5.  Would hitting 2.5X screw up the DVD, and is there anyway to override the setting so I can burn slower, or would that not affect anything?

I definitely make sure to close all programs and not touch the computer at all while it's doing its thing, so I don't think that's it.  I'm going to try on a different burner when I go home this weekend, and see if that works.  If so, I'll probably pick up an external.  If you don't mind, what model do you have, so I know I'm getting something that works.

Thank you very much for your help.

This post has been edited by cheezitman2001: Mar 25 2009, 05:39 AM

[cheeese]

I feel your pain, I'm onto my 6th Verbatim as of yesterday, its driving me insane! 1 burn worked, but I took it out during verify, got into career and that was it. The rest I get "disk is unreadable" with, every time! My box plays originals though so I also think its my burner. But why should our dvd burners be having trouble? I can burn movie DVD's just fine. See my link: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=680539

[BlueSlingShot]

QUOTE(cheezitman2001 @ Mar 25 2009, 06:09 AM)

I have verified my image with abgx, and it comes back with everything green, so I don't think that's the problem.  I definitely am selecting the .dvd file.  Just to make sure, it's just 2 lines, right? Layerbreak and then the name of the ISO.  Does anything else need to be there?  One thing I've noticed is that ImgBurn always burns it at 2.4X, regardless of if I set it slower, because it says 2.4X is all the discs support.  Also, it sort of alternates between 2.4 and 2.5.  Would hitting 2.5X screw up the DVD, and is there anyway to override the setting so I can burn slower, or would that not affect anything?

I definitely make sure to close all programs and not touch the computer at all while it's doing its thing, so I don't think that's it.  I'm going to try on a different burner when I go home this weekend, and see if that works.  If so, I'll probably pick up an external.  If you don't mind, what model do you have, so I know I'm getting something that works.

Thank you very much for your help.

Model GE20LU10. Here's a pic-http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9182742&type=product&id=1218048302285

Just try this burner and see if it works (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
 
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[chc]

QUOTE(BlueSlingShot @ Mar 27 2009, 06:46 AM)

You could head to your local best buy, pick up a new burner (external for simplicity, plug n play) see if that corrects your problem. That what i picked up when my 360 was flashed and it's great. I use an external LG. If it does than you know it's your old burner. If it doesn't just repack it up and return it.

Model GE20LU10. Here's a pic-http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9182742&type=product&id=1218048302285

Can't really condone such practices...
Besides, it's a LG. Last time I checked, owners of LG and Samsung burners weren't overly enthusiatistic about the usability of their backups.
Pioneer 116series probably gets most recommandations. As for recommended media.... not going to echo that.


@cheezitman2001
Since you verified your images, the problems lies elsewhere. You need to check how well your burner gets along with that batch of discs. As well, as how well your reader (in the xbox360) performs with the discs, made with that burner.
(Whether burn speed does play a role or not, I haven't tested that myself, so I'll refrain from making comments on that.)

recapping and repeating the things that've been said, and you could try:
- check whether you have the latest firmware for your burner
- check how other users' experiences with those discs, e.g. google the media code.
(There are cases where media have 'fake' media codes, but that's a different matter.)
- try different discs / media code
- try a different burner
(Visit cdfreaks for burner reviews, so see whether there's a review of your burner at cdfreaks. I decided to go for Optiarc AD-7200, as it produces DVD+R DL discs with nice quality ratings, almost regardless of discs' grade / brand.)
- check the quality of your discs with nero DiscSpeed
(Was a real revelation to me...)
- try the discs in an other (modded) xbox

For the more tech. savvy
- pot. modification of your xbox 360 reader

Good luck.

This post has been edited by chc: Mar 27 2009, 07:03 PM

[BlueSlingShot]

The LG works fine (for me anyway) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . Even at 8x the lg pumps out backups that function flawlessly.

Use what works for you. I wouldn't go buy a pioneer now. Why? Just because everyone else on the bandwagon says it's better?

I went nuts when trying to figure out back in the day which burner was right for xbox 1 games. In the end, my oem laptop one works flawlessly for me and still does.

So i'm saying, if it works, reguardless of everyone elses opionions, use it.
 
A pot tweak i wouldn't touch. If your saying your 360 won't read past the same spot on your backups i would lean towards it being a burning issue. If it was a laser issue, the dirty disc error is usually accompanied by the "open tray" message when backups are inserted. Especially after the dd message when resetting the console the laser won't even see the backup in there most of the time.

[cheezitman2001]

Thanks, everyone.  I tried it on a different burner and it worked flawlessly, so I'm gonna go out and get another DVD burner.  I'm on a laptop, so an external would probably be the easiest for me.  I did, however, find a 116D for just under $30, which is significantly cheaper than most of the externals I've found.  Does a USB-IDE connector work well, or should I just stick with the external?  If so, which USB-IDE works the best?

Thanks again for all of your help.

[BlueSlingShot]

Cool, glad everything works.

Just pick up an external case for it on ebay. Then you shoud be set after that. The cases come with a board in them already so you don't have to worry about an ide-usb converter set. Make sure it's an ide external case, 5.3 inches i believe?

[torrentted]

QUOTE(chc @ Mar 27 2009, 07:36 PM)

Can't really condone such practices...

Well the store can.