Topic: No More Verbs For Me (Read 111 times)

jimbobjim · « **on:** August 12, 2008, 05:06:00 AM »

The whole point of buying verbs seems like it's gonna go the way of the Dodo soon. When we can install games to the hdd, our DVD rom drives will only have to read the disc for a second or two to verify the correct game is inserted. This will basically cut out all disc read errors and excess laser wear.

Is anyone alse gonna still bother with em? It seems like a smarter move to save your cash, buy a 120gb hdd, then backup your games to some cheap media that's a quarter of the price.

jimbobjim · « **Reply #1 on:** August 12, 2008, 07:08:00 AM »

I get em off ebay for about £14 for 10. Aone discs are £4 for 10 from my local computer shop. Zero defex are even cheaper.

Basically, buying three spindles of cheap discs will save me around £30... that's not bad at all.

shallow1 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:21:00 PM »

Ugh, nvm. I see its a feature of the fall update, not a bad one but not what I had hoped.

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 12 2008, 12:42 PM)

It seems like a smarter move to save your cash, buy a 120gb hdd, then backup your games to some cheap media that's a quarter of the price.

That sounds like the smart move to me, as long as they copy over and boot reliably.

Toddler · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2008, 06:17:00 AM »

Since you brought it up, I'll ask the obvious question--if you intend to copy the entire game to the hard drive, put the original back in the case and never touch it again, doesn't that eliminate the need to even burn backups?

Why would you bother burning a disc at all, just to take that backup and copy it to the 360 hard drive? You've got to read your original at least once either way. Sounds like a stupid plan to me.

Onimu · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2008, 03:24:00 PM »

How you guys copy the games in 120g and play from there? I want to know..

Spartiku5 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2008, 03:49:00 PM »

QUOTE(Onimu @ Aug 13 2008, 11:00 PM)

How you guys copy the games in 120g and play from there? I want to know..

It's coming in the fall update m8 copy your games to HDD and just use the disk to "authorise" that you have the game

jimbobjim · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2008, 03:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(Toddler @ Aug 13 2008, 01:53 PM)

Since you brought it up, I'll ask the obvious question--if you intend to copy the entire game to the hard drive, put the original back in the case and never touch it again, doesn't that eliminate the need to even burn backups?

Why would you bother burning a disc at all, just to take that backup and copy it to the 360 hard drive? You've got to read your original at least once either way. Sounds like a stupid plan to me.

You still need to insert the disc every time you play. Before you say "what's the point then?", playing from the hdd will speed up loading times, quieten the console and reduce drive wear.

jimbobjim · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2008, 04:39:00 AM »

I doubt using your original disc for 5 minutes is gonna do it much harm. Besides, you're gonna have to use it at least once to make the backup.

Unless your 360 is poor at reading cheap discs and consistantly scratches originals, there shouldn't be a a need for Verbs.

jimbobjim · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2008, 04:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(Onimu @ Aug 14 2008, 10:03 PM)

So, is it offical software built in to dump games data in 120g from M$? With the new console, we can't flash the drive. How can we run backup??

We can't... yet.

TheBestXboxModder · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2008, 05:47:00 PM »

I heard that C4E recently said on IRC, "The LiteOn shall soon fall" or something like that.

Toddler · « **Reply #10 on:** August 17, 2008, 04:14:00 AM »

I'll say it again, it seems completely pointless to make backups when the disc will spin for about 5 seconds.

jimbobjim · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2008, 04:28:00 AM »

QUOTE(Toddler @ Aug 17 2008, 11:50 AM)

I'll say it again, it seems completely pointless to make backups when the disc will spin for about 5 seconds.

You never said that

You said "put the original back in the case and never touch it again"

If your 360 drive doesn't scratch discs it should make no differnece whether it spins for 5 seconds or 5 hours. For me backups are essential because no matter how many times I try to teach my kids to be careful with discs, they still manage to end up looking like they've just been used as dinner plates.

1nsan3 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2008, 09:07:00 PM »

i will save my hdd space for more important data than a 360 game.. most people have a collection of games more than 6 or 7... so even a 120 gig will fill up fast.. that means less space for other more important content...

now if m$ releases like a 1tb drive then that might be a bit worth it...
other wise i will stick with poping the disks in each time.. my old xbox 1 is still running like a champ dvd drive and hdd... by the time my 360 drive starts to go bad .. will have to buy another 360 anyways...

jesterrace777 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2008, 01:28:00 PM »

Actually the 20 packs are currently on sale for $25 with free shipping from newegg.

jimbobjim · « **Reply #14 on:** August 27, 2008, 06:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(Bearhug @ Aug 27 2008, 10:54 AM)

even on a 120gb HD your still only going to fit 17 or 18 games on there at max. With other content even less.

I see you came to that figure because you divided 120 by the size of a 360 iso (7gb) What you're forgetting is that most games are far smaller when you take only the data into account. Most of the iso is just padding and dummy files.

The average game is probably more like 3-4gb when you extract only the files, meaning you'll be able to fit nearer to 30 on your hdd.

I feel that 10 games would be enough on the hdd, but that's a personal choice.

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