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[SniperXx]

I have some of my games backed up on Memorex and I just got some Verbatim's, just wondering are the Verbatim's easier on the laser? Wondering if maybe I should reburn them to Verbatim or if it would be a waste of DVD's.

[cory1492]

Better media is always better for the lifespan of an ODD laser; you can usually tell "how bad" it is for the laser simply by listening to what a drive is doing. If it's making a tonne of seemingly unnecessary seeks (chunking noises), you hear clacking (usually the optics over-extending towards the disk) or high pitched noises (can't think of anything that sounds quite like it, but it's hard on the ears) - chances are the drive is using up it's read retries trying to get a bit of data it couldn't read easily the first go.

I won't say re-burn them all if they do work fine, but I will say don't expect your laser to last nearly as long if you use cheaper media like memorex instead of listening to the recommendations of using MIS verbatims.

This post has been edited by cory1492: Feb 21 2008, 09:18 PM

[mattzane227]

I'm using verbatim but i'm burning them with a (relatively new) samsung lightscribe burner that I already had.  I backed up madden and it sounds like its seeking constantly (chunking noise).  The original disc doesn't do this.  Do I need to invest in a pioneer or does this always happen when playing a backup vs. an original?  When I burned I verified and the burn was good.

[mattzane227]

Wouldn't let me edit but I also backed up Dirt and it doesn't do the searching all the time thing, just Madden.

[mattzane227]

Okay one more thing then i'm done.  What i'm basically asking is with my samsung burner, even though it verifies successfully, is it possible that the burn is still low quality which would make the 360 drive have to search all the time and be loud and bad for the laser?  I don't wanna waste anymore verbatims if I need a new burner.

[ILLusions0fGrander]

do a quality scan.

find more out here

edit: make sure your drive you use is able to do one of these scans, as i here the pioneer drives wont give the most accurate readings.

This post has been edited by ILLusions0fGrander: Yesterday, 08:34 PM

[cory1492]

Most pio burners won't even do a quality scan, not sure about samsung burners. If you can do a quality scan using your drive (with both PI errors and PI failures monitored, failures being the main indicator of quality, plextor, benq and liteon burners are the common ones that can do this type of testing), it's worth checking on any burned disk you find questionable.

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even though it verifies successfully, is it possible that the burn is still low quality which would make the 360 drive have to search all the time and be loud and bad for the laser?

Entirely possible, I have seen disks that are burnt with fingerprints or dust stuck to them that will verify fine in a PC burner (even pass the so called quality scans nicely) that just won't play in a console.

I'd say your madden burn is likely fine, probably just one of those games that reads little bits at a time from multiple files in multiple places on the disk. Try copying 2 files off a data disk at the same time on your PC (drag and drop them separately) and listen to what it sounds like. Keep in mind also that 360 games are not pure/1:1 copies of the original, and that burned disks will never have the reflectivity of a pressed disk.

This post has been edited by cory1492: Today, 03:11 AM

[mattzane227]

Thanks for the reply.  Yeah I would have to buy a new dvd drive to even do a scan, so I might as well just buy a pioneer.  So even if I have a pioneer burner, a backup will still be louder in the 360 than a original disc?

[jesterrace777]

Depends on your individual drive.  Anyways, as far as scanners go Lite-On, Benq and Plextor are really the only reliable scanners.