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[TinkeringAndTampering]

Can I use the video360.iso included with the xtreme firmware? renaming it of course...

[waynevan2000]

Can someone tell me what the size is supposed to show in XBCr or has anyone backed this game up on a SH-D163A ?

When i unlock the drive it shows 7,307,001,856 bytes. But if i then press eject and reload. It changes to 7,572,881,408 bytes (tried pressing unlock several times also, stays at 7,307,001,856 bytes)

It will dump without problems when showing 7,307,001,856 bytes.
When i try to dump it whilst showing 7,572,881,408 bytes (after eject) , I get this:

(IMG:http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2503/xbcrgy9.jpg)

If i press OK. I get this:

(IMG:http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1809/xbcr2pg3.jpg)

I have a hitachi 78 drive in xbox, so im unable to dump it that way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Here is the full log from start to finish with both 7,307,001,856 (successful)  &  7,572,881,408 bytes (unsuccessful)
                     -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Xbox Backup Creator v2.3 Build:0185 By Redline99

Found ODD: TSSTcorp DVD-ROM SH-D163A SB00 at [D]
   Additional Info: XB360 KREON V0.80
Found ODD: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-110D 1.22 at [E]
   Additional Info: 05/09/13  PIONEER
Getting media info [D]
   Uknown Partition size. Used bytes = 5.32 MB
   Media Type: DVD-ROM
   Bytes Used: 5.32 MB (5,578,752 bytes)
Getting media info [D]
   Media Type: DVD-ROM
   Bytes Used: 6.81 GB (7,307,001,856 bytes)
Getting media info [D]
AFTER EJECT
   Media Type: Not Present
Getting media info [D]
   Media Type: DVD-ROM
   Bytes Used: 7.05 GB (7,572,881,408 bytes)
Starting read process...
Space Available on Drive S:\ 185 GB (198,956,167,168 bytes)
Space needed 0 bytes
Creating current partition image [D]
   Partition Type = Unknown
Opening image output file
   Processing Current Partition
   Reading XDVDFS File system
   Reading Volume Descriptor
Setting read speed to 6x
Setting SH-D163A error mode to 0x00
   Manual retry at Partition LBA: 110256
   Cancelling do to read errors
Action: Read Error Partition LBA: 0x0001AEB0 (110256)
Sense Error: 5 / 64 / 00
ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK
CDB: READ(10)
0x28 00 00 01 AE B0 00 00 01 00 00 00
Setting read speed to 6x
Getting media info [D]
   Media Type: DVD-ROM
   Bytes Used: 7.05 GB (7,572,881,408 bytes)
   Read failed
AFTER UNLOCK WITHOUT EJECT
Getting media info [D]
   Media Type: DVD-ROM
   Bytes Used: 6.81 GB (7,307,001,856 bytes)
Starting read process...
Space Available on Drive S:\ 185 GB (198,956,167,168 bytes)
Space needed 6.81 GB (7,307,001,856 bytes)
Creating current partition image [D]
   Partition Type = Xbox360 Game
Opening image output file
   Processing Current Partition
   Reading XDVDFS File system
   Reading Volume Descriptor
   Processing Directory Table at sector 105699
   Sorting Section Map
   Optimizing Section Map
   Summary ----------------------------------------------
      Section Mappings:      236
      Section Mappings Opt:  3
      Directories:           36
      Files:                 197
      Sectors in use:        3,204,094
      Total File Bytes:      6.11 GB (6,561,712,754 bytes)
      Last File Sys LBA:     3309790
Setting read speed to 6x
Setting SH-D163A error mode to 0x00
Setting read speed to 6x
Getting media info [D]
   Media Type: Not Present
   Read completed in 00:22:03
                                  -----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the total file bytes supposed to be ?

ANY help/advice would be appreciated.

Ps. Nice app Redline99  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It has been perfect for the other 12 backup dumps I have done.

This post has been edited by waynevan2000: Feb 23 2007, 10:03 PM

[sosotiit]

About using different video.iso, here is something to consider. The x360 image is very sensitive to having the image as per the original layout. The change in the new game is that they are using a smaller video.iso.
Replacing the video.iso could be OK if done with one of exactly the same size, but not very good if you use one of the older video.iso which was bigger.

In conclusion, it would be OK if the video.iso is from one of the new games with video.iso of the same size. Probably easier to get Schtrom and extract the good video.iso or just pad with blank in ssmerger.

Hope I make sense??

rgds,soso

[waynevan2000]

Ok i found my problem. The 7,307,001,856 bytes dump was fine.
It was SS merger V1.7b. I was selecting everything from folder 1 then choosing output as game.iso in folder 2. But for some reason it is patching the one in folder 1.
I burned the one from folder 1 and it is working fine.

Not sure why it is patching the wrong file  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)

(IMG:http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9105/ssmergerhq9.jpg)

This post has been edited by waynevan2000: Feb 23 2007, 11:35 PM

[cjf28]

my game.iso in the folder1 is 7,395,392,   but the game.iso in folder2 is 7,135,744.  but, according to the above post, i want to burn the iso from folder 2?  even though the file is smaller?

QUOTE(mshack102 @ Feb 23 2007, 08:27 PM)

1. Open XBC DID OKAY
2. Go to drive tools, hit unlock drive twice until it reads the full size of the disc. DID OKAY, disc initially was 5.5 and once unlocked goes to 6.81
3. go to read select current partition DID OKAY
4. hit start, wait for it to copy. DID OKAY
5. go to drive tools, extract the ss, pfi, and dmi. DID OKAY
6 open schtrom xtract, insert any xbox 360 game, under task choose video.iso, and extract to the same folder as your crackdown files. DID OKAY
7. In this folder, you should have (naming is important) a game.iso, video.iso, SS, PFI, and DMI. DID OKAY
8. Make an identical copy of this folder. DID OKAY
9 Open SS merger DID OKAY
10. choose the iso, ss, pfi, and dmi from folder 1. select "add video partition" choose "insert iso" leave fixes checked. DID OKAY
11. check/uncheck nme compatibility as needed. Left unchecked, have flashed drive
12. hit the "merge and create layer break" button (File->Merge does not work) DID OKAY
13. window pops up, choose game.iso from folder 2 (or else it may give you a file in use error) DID OKAY
14. Now open imgburn, set layer break to 1913760, burn at 2.4x. If your making a backup for the nme360, make sure it is exactly 7.705.657.344 bytes  DID OKAY
After 3 coasters, i'm a little pissed!  Something is not going right. My original back up .iso file is 7.3GB, when i use SS Merger, the iso left in folder 2 is only 7.13 , and the .iso in folder 1 increases size to 7.6??
I've burnt both .iso, i know my media is fine Verbatin, my drive is bitset and i've done 2 other 360 games after these coasters that have played fine.

What am i missing, anyone else have a more detailed instructions? And YES, i've tried this on 2 different copies of Crackdown, with same results. All .iso files, don't come close the size suggested they should in this thread

3 coasters?  pfffffffftt!!!  Im up to 5!!  Having the same problems as you are. Can soso help out both of us, please?

[sosotiit]

you want to burn the files that is 7.572.881.408 bytes (or 7,395,392KB) if you have not selected NME obviously.

the 7,135,744KB file is only the game.iso (current partition) without the much needed SS (and others)...

One quick way to know which is OK is to use the image stealth check of Schtrom. If the SS is in the file it is OK.

rgds,soso

[cjf28]

see, thats what i thought.  and I tried, and got a dirty disk read error.  But my 7,395,392KB  is in my first folder, and it was stated in an earlier post that I need to pull my iso out of folder 2.  Someone else seemed to have the same problem of ss merger sending the iso back into folder 1, but I didnt understand how to correct the issue

[hakaveli]

hey i dont have any DVD+Rs right now to verify if i ripped crackdown properly. can someone tell me if these steps i took should be fine?:

1st i used dvdinfo pro to send custom commands.. that enabled me to see a 7.05 GB image file in isobuster. using isobuster i extracted the iso file and changed the TO thing to 3567872. so i have the game.iso file.

2nd i used XBOX BACKUP CREATOR to extract SS.BIN, PFI.BIN, and DMI.BIN.. these files took like one second each. is that correct?

3rd i merged everything together by putting the three BIN files and game.iso in the same directory. i then ran build360.bat and it gave me a image.000 file (which is 7.05 GB).

4th i copied a image.dvd file from a different backup to the crackdown folder and edited the file with notepad. changed the filename to the appropriate .000 file.


did i miss anything??

[sosotiit]

Well guys, I was finding some of your problems strange, I reviewed the method presented a bit more thoroughly, now I think I know why.
In step 12 after you hit merge, ss merger is not asking for the output file but for the video.iso to be inserted (in fact with pad with blank it will not open that window). The output is normally in the file indicated by the "ISO FIle", and does not keep the original game.iso.

So here we go with how I see it (By the way, not saying the method of JTG88 is not working, maybe it is just me not getting it)

QUOTE(Proposed method 2 @  )

1. Open XBC
2. Go to drive tools, hit unlock drive twice until it reads the full size of the disc.
3. go to read select current partition
4. hit start, wait for it to copy.
5. go to drive tools, extract the ss, pfi, and dmi.
6 open schtrom xtract, insert any xbox 360 game, under task choose video.iso, and extract to the same folder as your crackdown files.
7. In this folder, you should have (naming is important) a game.iso, video.iso, SS, PFI, and DMI.
9b Open SS merger
10b. choose the iso, ss, pfi, and dmi, select "add video partition" choose "insert iso" leave fixes checked.
11b. check/uncheck nme compatibility as needed.
12b. hit the "merge and create layer break" button (File->Merge does not work)
13b. window pops up, choose Video.iso +hit Open
14b. Now open imgburn, set layer break to 1913760, burn at 2.4x or 4x,  If your making a backup for the Flashed FW make sure it is exactly 7.572.881.408 bytes (or 7,395,392KB), for nme360, 7.705.657.344 bytes.

no need to duplicate the folder. Again just another view of it, no saying it was not working.
rgds,soso

This post has been edited by sosotiit: Feb 24 2007, 03:07 AM

[cjf28]

QUOTE(sosotiit @ Feb 24 2007, 02:35 AM)

Well guys, I was finding some of your problems strange, I reviewed the method presented a bit more thoroughly, now I think I know why.
In step 12 after you hit merge, ss merger is not asking for the output file but for the video.iso to be inserted (in fact with pad with blank it will not open that window). The output is normally in the file indicated by the "ISO FIle", and does not keep the original game.iso.

So here we go with how I see it (By the way, not saying the method of JTG88 is not working, maybe it is just me not getting it)

no need to duplicate the folder. Again just another view of it, no saying it was not working.
rgds,soso

soso,

appreciate the time you are taking to answering my repeated questions, but I got another one.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

can you explain step #14 to me using cloneCD as an example, instead of imageburn?  Ive never used that program and have no idea how.  Is setting the layer break something I need to do with cloneCD?
did you purposely leave out step 8?
does sneak King work to take the video.iso from?

This post has been edited by cjf28: Feb 24 2007, 03:31 AM

[sosotiit]

with clonecd, not really, just choose the .dvd file and it will set the layerbreak. You can do the same in imgburn by not setting the manual mode and selecting the .dvd file.

rgds,soso

[batman15]

QUOTE(JTG88 @ Feb 21 2007, 02:54 AM)

1. Open XBC
2. Go to drive tools, hit unlock drive twice until it reads the full size of the disc.
3. go to read select current partition
4. hit start, wait for it to copy.
5. go to drive tools, extract the ss, pfi, and dmi.
6 open schtrom xtract, insert any xbox 360 game, under task choose video.iso, and extract to the same folder as your crackdown files.
7. In this folder, you should have (naming is important) a game.iso, video.iso, SS, PFI, and DMI.
8. Make an identical copy of this folder.
9 Open SS merger
10. choose the iso, ss, pfi, and dmi from folder 1. select "add video partition" choose "insert iso" leave fixes checked.
11. check/uncheck nme compatibility as needed.
12. hit the "merge and create layer break" button (File->Merge does not work)
13. window pops up, choose game.iso from folder 2 (or else it may give you a file in use error)
14. Now open imgburn, set layer break to 1913760, burn at 2.4x. If your making a backup for the nme360, make sure it is exactly 7.705.657.344 bytes.

~Justin

Will this process work at all without doing step 6?  It did for Star Trek but I am afraid to try it with crackdown.

[darthmaul]

Well, I dont know if I have ever been so frustrated in my life trying to back up a game   .  I've tried twice so far with no luck.  I've followed the instructions to a "T" and cant seem to back up my original copy of crackdown.   The disk burns alright, but when I attempt to play it I get "unreadable disk" error.  Using Verbatims, burned with image burm at 2.4.  I have the samsung drive flashed with kreon.  Hopefully someone can come up with a definitive guide to help us out, or a new version of XBC to solve this frustrating problem.   Soto thanks for all your assistance.  You seem to be all over the place and I appreciate you trying to help.   I'm scared to try again in fear of making another expensive coaster....

PS....Anyone successfully back up NBA Street homecourt??  If so, with this same method???

[gerzand]

Like others, SS merger put my 7,395,392 KB iso in folder 1 instead of 2. So naturally when i burned it what was in folder 2 (still 6.8gb), it gave me an unreadable disc error. When i burner folder 1, worked like a charm! Hope this helps confirm the theory.

[billynomates]

soso worked perfectly tried and tested excellent work guys and thanks   burned no problemo