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[team_toyo]

I have been trying to Backup my 360 game ever since I scratched the hell out of it, and replaced it for a new one, but I have had no luck.

I'm using a DVD that is 7.8 GB in size I don't have anything bigger, but I wouldn't think that after finding the magic # that it would be because of the DVD, and I use the pin hole to swap out the disc rather than the other way. I will here the drive spin, and make a load sound then spin and make a loud sound, over and over again untill WX Ripper gives me an Error @ 0 Drive redundancy. I figure its the drive since its an error at 0 which means its not liking the disc from the beginning. Any Layouts that might work. I hope its not my drive. I have another Drive DVD-RW DL Lite On, but when I hit the pin hole the dame thing doesn't open and stay open. The drive lites up, and closes again, and I have to start all over again, which in this case I can't use the drive because it dosen't give me the chance to swap, and it resets itself. The other drive I use is a Lite On DVD Drive, no burner.

I know I've said a mouthfull and should probably shut up, but I am lost.

[sosotiit]

yes, @0 is usually a sign that the swap was detected by the drive.
Emergency hole does not work with most drive (pioneer are the best), I was not able to make liteon work.
You mention liteon is you second drive, but what is your primary drive?

moved to backup
rgds,soso

[monkeyflungpoo]

Yeah the emergency hole most of the time doesn't work for me. If I were you, why not buy a SH-D162C drive. They are very in expense.

[team_toyo]

My Primary Drive is a Lite On DVD-ROM/CD-RW Burner. This is the one that lets me eject using the emergency Hole.

My Secondary is a Lite On DVD-RW DL Burner, but when I use the emergency hole it sucks the tray back up. It just dosen't work.

I tried opening the Secondary drive up but its built to where I have to cut metal. I haven't tried opening the Primary. I will give that a try and just hot swap with it open (If I can)and see what happens. Thanks for the help guys.

[sosotiit]

liteon are usually pretty tough for the emergency hole.
Pioneer are the best.
Good luck with the hot swap.

rgds,soso

[team_toyo]

I have suceeded to get WX Ripper to start coping, and of course there are some sectors that the drive dosen't like.

· C19408 <- Same as orignal
· D1072 <- Same as orignal
· C91135 <- Original used to be C109344, which I split into 2
  parts, stopping at 1 byte before my CRC error @ 91136
· D18209 <- Dummy the remainder of the part that gives the
  error. 18209 (this line) + 91135 (previous line) = 109344
  (original number)

This is a passage from Textbook.pdf

I did the same thing for GOW, with the exception that the sectors are differant, and then ran WX Ripper again.

Then after running again It has another problem at a differant sector, so I have the edited layout from the first error, and then I edit the sector that had the error to the edited layout. and after all that WX Ripper manages to copy the ISO. It is 7.05 GB, but its off by a few Bytes. Xbox Backup Creator tells me that the ISO is to small for WX Ripper, but to big for extreme version. I even use SS merger to merge the Security Sectors, The PFI, and DMI.

By the way I don't know where to get the three, but there is an option in Xbox Backup Creator that allows you to extract them, and then I use SS merger to merge them, I figure this is not were I should get them since it gives a red indicator After I do that the ISO is 7.17 GBs

Xbox backup creator gives me a message about the SS, PFI, and DMI saying something like the SS isn't where is should be, or somewhere along that line. I can't remember. Same for PFI, and DMI.

I've said to much, but 15 bucks for 3 wasted DL DVD's is killing the wallet. I know i'm doing something wrong, but i'm to retarded to figure something so simple out. I have that feeling that its something I know i'm doing wrong, but can't see it.

[sosotiit]

try it simpler at first simply change line 3 from C to D

C19408 <- Same as orignal
D1072 <- Same as orignal
D109344
the rest is the same as it was

after the rip it should be 7,572,881,408 bytes (I believe??)

then put it in ssmerger1.7b with the SS, DMI and PFI (you can extract them in  drivetool tab of XBCr with your x360 drive connected and seen in windows). The red bar are not important.
Select pad with blank for the video (or add one if you want) and deselect NME compatible, hit the big merge button. the resulting file should be 7,572,881,408 bytes again.

I havent done that in a while, so not sure, but you may even try the image tool in XBCr to insert the SS, DMI, PFI,

rgds, soso

[team_toyo]

I will try changing the 3rd line from C to D, but do I still have to do the above that I mentioned before if it dosen't like the sectors in the next few line (which ever one it messes up on first) Plus the Magic Number, that Magic #. I used a DVD that is oh i don't know 7.85 GB I think (The Incredables) does it effect the process if its not 8gb + because I have noticed that every size/DVD has a differant Magic Number.


I think with GOW it was Line 4 that messed up right at 0 so since I couldn't go one byte back I just faked/dummy the hole sector for that Line, and it still came out 7.05 GBs but XBC said it was to small for WX Ripper, and To big for Extreme, but none the less I will try, and try again. I wish I had the details, but i'm not at my own PC. I have to use my friends.

By the way, what does it actually mean when it jumps. I'm taking a guess it just skips this sector without making it a dummy (no data)

This post has been edited by team_toyo: Feb 8 2007, 04:10 AM

[sosotiit]

not sure I am following you,


just take the layout that you get when you find the magic number, and only change the third line from C109344 to D109344. Change nothing else and reload the layout then extract...

I do it with 7.5G and it is working, so 7.85 is not an issue.

rgds,soso

[team_toyo]

I think I may have found the problem, but I'm not to sure. I was reading some tutorials from the links you have below your sig, and I read that you find the magic number on the X360 disc. I think I have been finding the magic number on the DVD Movie itself. I can't remember, I am so tired, but I am going to give it a try. Thats sad if I've been doing that, and sad because I can't remember if I have been doing it wrong. I really need sleep

[sosotiit]

usually find it on the movie, so you were ok
rgds

[team_toyo]

Cool. I got GOW to go no problems. I haven't burned the ISO yet, NO DVD's. Until then I will not know if I come up into some more problems.

Just to see if I was just lucky to have GOW go good, I tried to Copy Pocket Bike Racers (Burger King Game) Just to see if I would have success again, but in line 6 in had an error. Just curious but I'm not going any furture with that game. I really don't play it so I won't have a problem losing it, or scratching it, and if I did oh well.

[sosotiit]

The burger king stuff has both a Xbox 1 and x360 version on it I believe, so very unsure how wxripper would digest it. Even XBCr has problem with it, so dont benchmark on that.
rgds,soso

This post has been edited by sosotiit: Feb 9 2007, 02:50 AM

[team_toyo]

Okay I have the Collectors Edition of Gears of War, and I have already scratched it up, replaced it, and now have the new copy. I was lucky enough to get it replaced since it was my fault to begin with, so I want to insure myself.

From this

C19408
D1072
C109344
C1783936
J342400
C1783936
J0

To This:   Bold Underline represents the change

C19408
D1072
D109344
C1783936
J342400
C1783936
J0

With the unchanged layout in WX Ripper Gears of wars usually has an error at LBA 129824 which is C1783936, but if I change the layout like you said (above) Gears of War has no problems going thru, I just can’t figure out why the error goes away when its LBA 20480 that I changed (which is C109344 to D109344) and not LBA 129824 ( C1783936 ) I’m just trying to learn how this works in a technical way, but none the less I have a raw dump of the game which is 7.05 GB (7,572,881,408 bytes) and SS Merger 1.7b tells me that the ISO is a WxRipper Style Length which is good since that is where I ripped it from. Then a box pops up saying current security sector MD5 : C99A74C555371A433D121F551D6C6398. Now I have no internet at my place, so I can’t calculate the MD5 checksum. I have to rely on my mother in laws computer for internet, and she would go anal if I ripped her DVD Drives apart, plus she has no DVD-RW DL burner. So I’m just shit out of luck.

About the SS. I’m having a problem with that. I use Xbox Backup Creator (XBC) to extract the SS, DMI, and PFI from the ISO, but why would I have to if I’m going to merge them back in with SS Merger, I’m just running a loop it seems. So I figure the SS.bin comes with SS Merger, but there is none in the Zip/Rar file.

So instead I use XBC to extract the SS, DMI, PFI from the ISO, and XBC tells me for all three unable to determine the validity of the Security Sector, Do you want to continue. I figure again that XBC needs an internet connection to find out. But then XBC has the option to merge the SS so I’m back to the conclusion that I need to download it from somewhere, like maybe Xbins, you know that kind of a file, but I’m not to sure because none of the tutorials that I have read specify where and how to get the SS, DMI, and PFI, they just say merge them with SS Merger. Needles to say I burn the game after using SS Merger to merger the SS.bin that I got from XBC, and I get my DVD file. then I use XBC to burn the DVD file, XBC tells me backup image doesn’t match expected filesize: Expected 7.05 GB (7,572,881,408 bytes) Actual 7.18 GB (7,705,657,344 bytes) so then XBC aborts, and I know then I can’t burn it but like a dumb ass I burn it anyway with image burn, and I load the game and it gives me the error and plays the video partition, so its all back to the Security Sector. I have a perfectly good dump, but the rest is history.

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[sosotiit]

1)LBA 129824 is the last of (19408+1072+109344) so by replacing with D in line three,  allow you to go in first layer (first of C1783936)

2)about ss merger, forget the md5 and all that it is not needed and we do not support the use of such database at XS!
So say no  when it ask “Do you want to calculate… and verify online…” (not sure if the database even exist anymore, I never uses that).
It is not a problem if you have the two red fields at the bottom, I have never used the database (always got the two red fields) and it works.

But since you have a samsung, you dont need wxripper, connect your x360 xrive to your PC and use xbox creator one click the entire game is backed up.

You cannot extract the ss, dmi and PFI from your wxripper image, so there is no point for you using wxripper at all.

A lot of work opening your x360, you might want to consider a SH-D162c in your PC ,



rgds,soso