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[SnoopKatt]

The wrapper still says MKM though. It would be false advertising if this batch wasn't MKM.

[jesterrace777]

No, as Verbatim/MKM has officially given license to Moser Baer to produce these DL discs for them.

[SnoopKatt]

Hmm, that's probably true, my 5th disc was a coaster and one of the discs that were in the pack has a really deep scratch on the back. Too bad, the first 4 discs came out perfect...

[jesterrace777]

And that is the way it goes with MII.  Some are great discs and others are worse than budget media.  It's all luck of the draw.

[SnoopKatt]

It's too bad, I've never had problems with Verbatim before. Now it seems like there's no true media to depend on (unless someone can actually find a place that actively stores MIS discs).

[jesterrace777]

No, as I pointed out above, all of the 8x official rated DL Verbatim media (MKM003) is still MIS (only the 2.4x official rated MKM001 stuff is currently being produced in India). If you live in North America Buy.com has an incredible deal on these right now.  $21.49 shipped for a 15 pack if you are using google checkout for the first time and a $6 mail-in rebate to boot.  So you could potentially get them for $15.49 shipped or roughly $1.04 a disc.  That is among the best deals that I have ever seen on ANY DL Verbatim media.

[kseries]

I bought at best buy the weekend of black friday the sony 25 pack DVD+R DL that are packaged in blue spindle  they were on sale for $29.99 for the pack of 25.So far I have made 15 backups and not one single problem yet.I just used dvdinfo and it says this.

Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    RITEK   D01
Media Product Revision Number                                         01h
Format Capacity                                                Blank Disc
Free Blocks                                                    4253024256
Free Capacity                                              7.96GB/8.55GB
Book Type                                                        DVD+R DL
Media Type                                                       DVD+R DL
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                    2.4x 3324KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Layer 0 end sector                                                22D7FFh
Linear Density                                                0.293um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        2
Layer Track Path direction                      (OTP) Opposite track path
                                                                         
                           Complete Media Code                          
00000000 08 02 00 00 E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF FF ......2.........
00000010 00 22 D7 FF 00 00 00 52 49 54 45 4B 00 00 00 44 .".....RITEK...D
00000020 30 31 01 40 25 25 37 0C 00 28 64 00 28 64 20 1F 01.@%%7..(d.(d .
00000030 0C 0C 14 14 02 01 01 20 00 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 02 ....... . ......





RE THESE ANY GOOD TO CONTINUE BUYING>

[jesterrace777]

Not for long term use, no the Ritek are not the most durable media out there.  Given the Buy.com deal on the 8x official DL Verbatim I would definitely pick up those.

[kseries]

What exactly is bad about the long term use.WIll the laser get waek and stop detecting my backup games.Also I bought today some tdk because they didnt have the sony I have purchased before I got the 25 pack for $27.99 at bestbuy are those any worse then the sony ritek that I have stated above.I dont want to open them yet they suck even more ill just take them back.

[skoda1800]

dl writers has been out for years, but the media is still expensive compared to single layer.

[jesterrace777]

QUOTE(kseries @ Dec 10 2007, 08:28 AM)

What exactly is bad about the long term use.WIll the laser get waek and stop detecting my backup games.Also I bought today some tdk because they didnt have the sony I have purchased before I got the 25 pack for $27.99 at bestbuy are those any worse then the sony ritek that I have stated above.I dont want to open them yet they suck even more ill just take them back.

TDK are either Ritek, Ricoh, CMC Mag.  Not sure which. either way none of them are the greatest media to be using.  As for wearing out your laser, yes, it is possible.  There is also the issue of the backups themselves deteriorating at a faster rate.  Not to alarm you but Ritek has had one of their single layer lines (Ritek G05) that was notorious for becoming unreadable after less than a year.  There is also some evidence of that happening on their DL media.  The other manufacturers listed above aren't much better.

QUOTE(skoda1800 @ Dec 10 2007, 09:03 AM)

dl writers has been out for years, but the media is still expensive compared to single layer.

And your point is?  

[kseries]

Thanks for all your help.

[jesterrace777]

No problem.  

[skoda1800]

Ok, almost 1 year has passed since the original post, so there must be some changes in quality since then, so media should be more reliable. china/hong kong brands must have caught up by now and the stuff would be more widespread.

[jesterrace777]

QUOTE(skoda1800 @ Dec 14 2007, 01:59 PM)

Ok, almost 1 year has passed since the original post, so there must be some changes in quality since then, so media should be more reliable. china/hong kong brands must have caught up by now and the stuff would be more widespread.

Guess again.  NOTHING has changed in the DL media market.  Other than the fact that now you can ONLY TRUST the 8x official rated DL DVD+R Verbatims.  They are the only ones who have solid quality and compatibility standards on their double layer media.  Made by MKM in Singapore (not to be confused with the MKM coded garbage coming out of India these days).