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jesterrace777

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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2007, 03:48:00 AM »

Good thing that there seems to be an alternative to Verbatim now.  As mentioned elsewhere the 25 packs of Sony DL DVD+R are now outsourcing SOME of thier production to MKM (exact same manufacturer as the coveted Verbatims) in Singapore.  So as long as you have a look at the spindle and verify the country of origin then you can easily end up with the exact same thing.  The downside is that ordering online is out since you never know what you are going to get and the MIT (Made In Taiwan) produced ones leave something to be desired for quality and compatibility.  If you are in north america bestbuy currently has them on sale and there are a few MIS packs floating around in their stock, you just have to search for them.  Went through about 20 spindles and found 2 packs of MIS Sonys.  25 DL DVD+R for $30 (especially for the MKM001 discs) is a pretty good deal.
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Trendsetta101

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2007, 08:34:00 PM »

HP DL DVD work great. They are about as good as Verbs
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2007, 09:03:00 PM »

QUOTE(Trendsetta101 @ Aug 7 2007, 03:34 AM) View Post

HP DL DVD work great. They are about as good as Verbs


Nice, I love how people don't even bother reading my first post before posting in this thread.   rolleyes.gif
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2007, 02:05:00 PM »

Update as of 8/14/07

Okay in an effort to keep up with the on-going changes in manufacturing here are a couple of new additions:

1. As has been mentioned elsewhere, Verbatim has started outsourcing SOME of it's production to Moser Baer in India.  Thus far the majority of the Made in India (MII) discs are being found in the 50 packs at Sam's Club but they have started showing up in other quantities elsewhere.  The MII discs do carry the MKM dyes and codes like their Singapore produced counterparts but unfortunately the manufacturing and quality standards seem to be falling short of their Singapore produced counterparts.  So at this point I still recommend only buying the Singapore produced Verbatims.

2. On the upside there is a new quality alternative to the Verbatims.  The deal is that SOME of the Sony DL DVD+R 25 packs are now being produced by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media (MKM) in Singapore.  So they are the EXACT SAME DISCS as the Verbatim Made In Singapore (MIS).  The catch is that you will have to go to the store and actually search for the MIS DL Sonys, ordering them online at this point is too much of a gamble since it is still very likely that you would end up with the Taiwanese produced junk (ie Ritek or Ricoh).  The country of origin can usually be found on the spindle right around the UPC symbol.   When BB had a sale on them a week or two ago, I went down and sifted through about 20 packs and ended up finding only 2 that were MIS.  Others from around the country are reporting similar findings.  Since they have just started outsourcing to MKM in Singapore, it will take a while before most see them in any large quantities at their local stores.  However, when they go on sale for $30 it is well worth the effort to sort through the discs.
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2007, 09:55:00 AM »

Jester, great thread!  Keep up the good work!
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2007, 03:22:00 PM »

FYI: I just came from Best Buy and they had a mix of Verbatim India and Singapore.  Most were from India though and I had to dig to the back to get Singapore.  They didn't carry Sony DL.
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2007, 10:56:00 AM »

Yup, that is a risk that you take with the Verbatim DL media these days.  The MII stuff seems to be becoming more prevalent.  They really need to make the sales more pronounced now that they are outsourcing some production to Moser Baer in India.  Surprised that there wasn't any Sony DL DVD+R at your BB location though (not unless they were all out of stock) as virtually all best buys carry at least some Sony DL DVD+R media (though not necessarily the MIS Sonys).
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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2007, 09:29:00 PM »

How much worse are the Made in India Verbatims compared to the ones made in Singapore? I just bought some from BB that are Indian-made, but I don't know if they're still worth using. :-/
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2007, 11:33:00 AM »

QUOTE(brilliantdonkey @ Aug 31 2007, 04:29 AM) View Post

How much worse are the Made in India Verbatims compared to the ones made in Singapore? I just bought some from BB that are Indian-made, but I don't know if they're still worth using. :-/


Honestly it all varies from spindle to spindle and there really is no way to tell for 100% sure until you crack it open and look at the discs.  There are some who have reported that there is precious little difference between the MII Verbatims and the MIS Verbatims.  On the other hand there are a number of people who have reported finding a number of visible defects (ie discs that come from the factory badly scratched/spotted, fingerprints smudged all over them) and even worse are some of the error rate scans which are showing 2x-3x the number of errors than their MIS counterparts.  Bottom line if you end up with a good MII spindle then there really isn't much to worry about, but if you end up with a bad one then you are almost better off getting lower quality media.   It's all luck of the draw with MII Verbatim hence the reason why I tell so many people to stick to the MIS stuff.  
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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2007, 12:40:00 PM »

hi jesterrace - i sent u a pm... did u receive it?
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2007, 03:52:00 PM »

I'll check my PM box but I have been bombarded with so many as of late that I may have overlooked it.   wink.gif
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2007, 05:35:00 PM »

This is a subject that I am interested in. I have recently been having problems in that my games would give me dirty errors or simply stop. My 360 isn't making great noises to be honest but it never did. I have always put it down to the source of the back-up but never really questioned the media to which I am burning.

Since I started I have only ever used Infiniti 360 disks. I really have had no real issues but I am keen to remove any possible issues. I have just updated to the newer firmware for my 111d and am now considering a new type of disk. It is clear everyone praises the Virbs but they really are overpriced and I like the full face print of the 360. Anyone got anymore info? 'm keen to know what other members have experienced using these disks.
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jesterrace777

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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2007, 12:24:00 AM »

Pop a blank one of your Infiniti discs in and use http://www.dvdinfopro.com so we could at least tell which manufacturer makes them.  The reviews I have seen thus far on the Infiniti discs are pretty mixed but I will try to dig up some scans for them on cdfreaks for you.
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2007, 04:24:00 AM »

QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Sep 20 2007, 07:00 AM) View Post

Pop a blank one of your Infiniti discs in and use http://www.dvdinfopro.com so we could at least tell which manufacturer makes them.  The reviews I have seen thus far on the Infiniti discs are pretty mixed but I will try to dig up some scans for them on cdfreaks for you.


I got this info off the SVP site:

Infiniti 360 Full-Face Printable DL (8x) DVD+R  :   ADVDInfo: RICOHJPND01

Infiniti 360 Full-Face Printable DL (2.4x) DVD+R  :  ADVDInfo: RICOHJPND00
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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2007, 06:31:00 AM »

I got some Infiniti here in the UK, I don't really recommend them. They stop working after around a month and I have 2 360s that enjoyed scratching them.
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