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[jaybert]

I was at best buy and they sold 2 different types...

1) 20 pack spindle of 2.4x (says up to 8x speed...my liteon only let me choose 2.4x and 4x), orange label
2) 15 pack of 8x (says up to 10x speed...liteon lets me choose 4x and 8x), purple label

Is there going to be a difference as to which one I choose if I plan on burning at 4x anyways?  Any preference of one over the other?

[jesterrace777]

Go with the 2.4x.  Both discs are highly rated, so unless you need that extra speed you might as well save yourself some cash and go with the 2.4x which will burn beautifully at 4x.  Truth be told some of my best error rate scans have come from burning these discs at 6x or 8x on my Pioneer 111D.

[ILLusions0fGrander]

yeah, ive been burning at 8x since i did it the first time and didnt have any problems.

[msr]

are you saying that you can burn 2.4x disks at 8x. does this really work, and whats the best way to test the disk afterwards with error rate scans

[ILLusions0fGrander]

yeah, they work.

jester knows the deal on the scans, apparently 111d isnt the best drive to perform scans with.

one of the scans is a free download from nero, forget the names though.

im sure jester will throw the info

[jesterrace777]

QUOTE(msr @ Dec 16 2006, 11:35 PM)

are you saying that you can burn 2.4x disks at 8x. does this really work, and whats the best way to test the disk afterwards with error rate scans

Yes, it can work (alot of it depends on your burner and firmware revision though).  As for Error Rate scans that once again depends on the drive.  Lite-On, Benq and Plextor drives are really the only ones that give accurate error rate scans.  *EDIT* Anyways, if you want proof about the crappy scans that the Pioneer 111 gives, then I suggest you have a look at this:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=202668

This post has been edited by jesterrace777: Dec 17 2006, 10:18 AM

[msr]

sorry to keep on, but i am a noob to scanning, never done it before(never thought we really had to).

if dvd+rs work, does it matter it they may have some errors on it, or does this do the laser in. do some here do a error scan on there disks all the time, or just one of there games.

so the pioneer 111d is very good at burning disks but not so good at reading them. so which liteon is good at reading for scanning, i assume you could just use a standard dvdrom drive and not a liteon reader/writer.

[20039700]

QUOTE(jaybert @ Dec 16 2006, 02:22 PM)

Is there going to be a difference as to which one I choose if I plan on burning at 4x anyways?  Any preference of one over the other?

Aside from the obvious you mean?

Sorry just had to say it

[jesterrace777]

QUOTE(msr @ Dec 17 2006, 02:42 PM)

sorry to keep on, but i am a noob to scanning, never done it before(never thought we really had to).

if dvd+rs work, does it matter it they may have some errors on it, or does this do the laser in. do some here do a error scan on there disks all the time, or just one of there games.

so the pioneer 111d is very good at burning disks but not so good at reading them. so which liteon is good at reading for scanning, i assume you could just use a standard dvdrom drive and not a liteon reader/writer.

Pretty much any LITE-ON DVD BURNER (DVD-ROM DRIVES DO NOT PRODUCE RELIABLE SCANS!!!!!!!!!) will do the job fine.  I am partial to the 160P6S burner myself since it would probably be the cheapest and most recent option for you at this point.  The other thing that is nice about the drive is that there is a really cool ripping firmware available for it to make it a speedy ripper as well as the fact that it will do reliable scans at 8x speed, unlike a number of other drives which are slow as molasses for doing scans.  As for D/L DVD+Rs working right off the bat even if it scans bad, the issue is degredation over time.  Those with bad scans but that work okay at first may not do so a few months to a year down the road.  As for error scans, I don't scan every single disc but I do scan about every other one.  Truth be told no one absolutely HAS to do error rate scans, however I view error rate scans as an early warning system for my media.  It is really nice as it has helped me out with spotting discs that were defective in the batch and which discs to avoid.  I do alot of burns (ie Movies, Videogames, Data, ect.) So for me the ability to scan is invaluable.