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[cyberdork33]

i personally use imgburn

[iudigger]

I was doing some more reading and I think that's the next thing I'll try.

If I create the images with XBC and burn them with ImgBurn, will that work?  Does anyone else do this with success?

[cyberdork33]

yes... that is exactly what I do, I do not do it any other way.

[groverblue]

@organiclemonade

Did you try Parallels at all?  I have a Kreon drive connected via USB, and Xbox Backup Creator sees it as valid.  The problem is, when I start the backup, Parallel ends up freezing about 10 seconds later.  The DVD drive spins for a little bit, then stops.  

I don't much about how Parallel or XBC allocates space, but maybe one of them is allocating the 7.5+ GB before the rip.  I guess I'll leave it run overnight to see if I have any results in the morning.

[20039700]

YAY YAY YAY

Burnt my first disk today and it worked!!!

Macbook 1.83ghz 1.25gb RAM
Bootcamp with Windows XP Home
Samsung (flasshed with Keron (or whatever it is called) in an external USB2.0 case)
Lite-On SOSW-833SX Dual Layer Writer
Verbatim DVD+r Dual Layer Disks (really hard to find in stock anyehre)
XBOX Backup Creator to read and write the disks.

Flashed Samsung MS-28 Xbox360.

Works like a charm.

Any idea how to make my backup XBOX1 games work? or even all my orig XBOX 1?

[cyberdork33]

you have to rerip your original xbox1 games to work with the xbox360. There are tutorials in the pinned backup FAQ

[gimpymm]

I have had success with my mac. its an intel iMac 2.0 ghz core duo.


I have had no success in OSX itself, though I dont see why a program that can read the .dvd file wouldnt work.

In Bootcamp Win XP Ive been using xbox backup creator 2.3 with traxdata and vertabrim discs.  Clone cd gives me un readable discs no matter what for some reason.  Using the internal iMac dvd burner I got a few working burns using the vertabrims, but traxdata would not work at all.   However since getting a pioneer 111d drive and putting it in an external USB 2.0 enclosure, I have backed up a fair few games successfully on both traxdata and vertabrims, with no failed burns.

[tekno123]

Hi, i was wondering how u find out ure dvd drive id in mac os x for the growisofs command. i looked in system profiler and doesnt show it. i listed all files in the /dev/ directory in terminal, got several rdisk names, from rdisk0s1-0s10, i was able to find out my 2 internal hard drives are rdisk0s10 and rdisk1s3, no clue what id my dvd drive was assigned tho, is there a specific command?

[cyberdork33]

try this in a terminal:

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diskutil list

That should list all the volumes on your machine. Might have to actually have a disc in the drive for it to show up. The last column shows the "identifier". This tells you the Disk Number and Partition Number of each volume. you need the disk number of your dvd drive.

[tekno123]

thanks cyberdork!
i was able to get the device id when i had a dvd in the drive. i had another problem where growisofs said permission denied when trying to burn, i figured it was becuase i have toast to open when i insert a blank dvd, so i changed it to open finder, and it works perfectly now.
my last question is if growisofs can burn clonde cd images, the .000 file, i know the .dvd just gives the layerbreak point so i wouldnt need that, the main 7 gig image is the .000 file, or can growisofs only burn .iso files?

[cyberdork33]

the .000 file is the disc image. it should be able to burn that.

the .dvd file only contains the layerbreak info as you stated, and growisofs will not read that in, so it is not needed. you specify the layerbreak on the commandline instead.

Your permission error was most likely because another burner program was open as you figured.

[kray4737]

do i have to rename my iso to "game.iso" when i type in the command:

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growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -use-the-force-luke=break:1913760  -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/rdisk1=Game.iso

[kray4737]

for some reason it wont let me edit my post but anyways..i downloaded xcode, darwin ports, cdrtools-2.01, and dvd+rw tools-7.0. I installed xcode and darwin ports and i made cdrtools and dvdrwtools.  Now to burn my iso i used the following custom command for me:

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/opt/local/var/db/dports/software/cdrtools/2.01_2/opt/local/bin/growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -use-the-force-luke=break:1913760 -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/rdisk1=Game.iso

but for some reason i got an error that says no such file or directory exists. I went to my /opt/local/var/db/dports/software/cdrtools/2.01_2/opt/local/bin/ directory but i couldnt find the growisofs file in there and thats why I think i am getting the error. I tried to remake dvdrwtools and cdrtools several times but it still cant see a growisofs file in the directory path given above. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

[cyberdork33]

i would guess that you are not making the binaries in that directory.

Oh and for the previous post, you do not need to rename the image file, you need to change the command to have the image file's name on the end!

[milocoon]

Thanks go to Cyberdork33 who helped me with this.
I finally got around to writing a tutorial about this for elsewhere so i`m posting a copy here.
On the mac there is NO commercial software that allows you to specify a layer break when burning a DVD yet so this guide is the only way at present to do this. Its not easy but if you follow this then it can be acheived and it works. follow each step and make sure the spaces are correct, you enter text in the terminal and press return on the keyboard to action your commands.

You will need to be familiar with the terminal app which is in the folder called Utilities which itself is in Applications on your boot HD to enter instructions which use the UNIX core of the operating system, this is not difficult if you know the syntax rules.

My system is 10.4.8 and my HD has 2 partitions.

1) Install Xcode Tools from your Tiger Installation DVD, inside the Xcode Tools Folder run the application Xcodetools.mpkg.

2) Download Darwin Ports for mac 10.4   from here       http://darwinports.o...rwin.org/getdp/ and install on your mac.  Read the whole page and run the sudo command mentioned on this page.

3) Install cdrtools after you have installed Darwin Ports by opening the terminal and typing exactly what I say next.

sudo port install cdrtools               press the RETURN key on your keyboard to make this command work

4) This should d/l the app cdrtools and install it on your mac automatically, If you  follow the progress in the terminal window you`ll understand, I can`t quite remember but if you are asked for a password then type in the password you normally get asked for when you install any new software on your mac and press the ENTER/RETURN key on your keyboard. This will install the set of tools in the following folder called bin on your HD.

/opt/local/var/db/dports/software/cdrtools/2.01_2/opt/local/bin/

5) The next step is to d/l the following .tar file from here.
http://fy.chalmers.s...x/DVD RW/tools/
You want dvd+rw-tools-7.0.tar.gz which is 128k and created on the 24-Sep
I download this onto my desktop and clicked on it to expand the file into a folder  called  dvd+rw-tools-7.0

6) Now you need to compile the Linux Tools contained inside the folder into Mac tools (thats why you installed Xcode)

Open the Terminal

Type

cd                       (cd is Change Directory in Unix)

Drag the folder dvd+rw-tools-7.0  into the terminal window and press return on your keyboard this should then redirect all commands to whatever is in that folder on your desktop.

Type

make                   then press return on your keyboard  (make will then compile the Linux tools into mac tools)

Now wait and let the magic start, it will take a minute or so and hopefiully you will have a terminal log like mine below.  milocoon is my computer name so yours will be different. Heres the log.

Last login: Thu Dec 21 03:24:35 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
82-32-42-19:~ milocoon$ cd /Users/milocoon/Desktop/dvd+rw-tools-7.0/
82-32-42-19:~/Desktop/dvd+rw-tools-7.0 milocoon$ make
gcc  -D__unix -O2   -c -o growisofs.o growisofs.c
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions   -c -o growisofs_mmc.o growisofs_mmc.cpp
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions    growisofs.o growisofs_mmc.o  -framework CoreFoundation -framework IOKit -o growisofs
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions   -c -o dvd+rw-format.o dvd+rw-format.cpp
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions    dvd+rw-format.o  -framework CoreFoundation -framework IOKit -o dvd+rw-format
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions   -c -o dvd+rw-booktype.o dvd+rw-booktype.cpp
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions    dvd+rw-booktype.o  -framework CoreFoundation -framework IOKit -o dvd+rw-booktype
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions   -c -o dvd+rw-mediainfo.o dvd+rw-mediainfo.cpp
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions    dvd+rw-mediainfo.o  -framework CoreFoundation -framework IOKit -o dvd+rw-mediainfo
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions   -c -o dvd-ram-control.o dvd-ram-control.cpp
g++  -D__unix -O2 -fno-exceptions    dvd-ram-control.o  -framework CoreFoundation -framework IOKit -o dvd-ram-control
82-32-42-19:~/Desktop/dvd+rw-tools-7.0 milocoon$


7) Inside the folder dvd+rw-tools-7.0 on your desktop you will now see the following 5 new tools called Unix Executable files.
dvd-ram-control
dvd+rw-booktype
dvd+rw-format
dvd+rw-mediainfo
growisofs

I dragged these 5 Unix Executable Files into the same folder that contains the cdr toots above. This is  located here.

/opt/local/var/db/dports/software/cdrtools/2.01_2/opt/local/bin/

In the bin folder you should now have a total of 17 tools.

9) If you`ve got this far you`ve almost cracked it as all you need to do now is create a text command in the terminal to run the program growisofs.

It needs to know where the GAME.ISO is on your computer.
It needs to know where GROWISOFS is located.
It needs to know what your DVD Burner is called.



In my case I have a Folder called DVD on my desktop containg the GAME.ISO   (it might also be called GAME.000 this is not important ) which is the large file you`ve got from here. You don`t need the .DVD file at all BTW.

You know where GROWISOFS is
/opt/local/var/db/dports/software/cdrtools/2.01_2/opt/local/bin/

Take any CD/DVD out of your DVD burner now if you had one in there already.
My Computer has the Boot HD setup as 2 parttitions and the terminal name for these are rdisk0 and rdisk1

If you open the terminal and type the folling in.

ls /dev/rdisk?                           (ls is List)    then press Return on the keyboard this is my log.

Last login: Thu Dec 21 04:10:37 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
82-32-42-19:~ milocoon$ ls /dev/rdisk?
/dev/rdisk0     /dev/rdisk1
82-32-42-19:~ milocoon$

Now put a CD/DVD into your DVD burner and repeat ls /dev/rdisk?

Last login: Thu Dec 21 05:32:34 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
82-32-42-19:~ milocoon$ ls /dev/rdisk?
/dev/rdisk0     /dev/rdisk1     /dev/rdisk2
82-32-42-19:~ milocoon$

Notice the new addition  so in my case my DVD burner is rdisk2

10) So I`ll  show you the final step to burning an XBox 360 backup.

Open up the terminal

cd                     (drag the folder called DVD ( containg the file game.iso ) on your desktop into the terminal window) press RETURN on your keyboard.

Heres my log so far

Last login: Thu Dec 21 04:21:17 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
82-32-42-19:~ milocoon$ cd /Users/milocoon/Desktop/dvd/
82-32-42-19:~/Desktop/dvd milocoon$

Now you need to navigate to the growisofs prgram, I typed this once and saved it as a text file but if your location is the same as me then this is all you need, HOWEVER you may need to change 2 things

rdisk2    is correct for my computer, read about the DVD burner again. Change this for your own computer
GAME.ISO    (the large file may be called something else so replace game.iso with   GearsofWar.000   or whatever the file is called or rename the file to game.iso)


Enter this into the terminal after taking into account the above two name changes (there is a space before the first slash )

/opt/local/var/db/dports/software/cdrtools/2.01_2/opt/local/bin/growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -use-the-force-luke=break:1913760  -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/rdisk2=game.iso

Put a Blank Dual Layer Traxdata or Verbatim DVD+R in your drive, when  the finder asks you about the blank dvd choose IGNORE

Now go back to the terminal and press RETURN and you are now burning.  Heres my log, allow about an hour and don`t close the terminal window until the hour is up and its all finished.

Enjoy I have kept the Original burnt this way and used Toast to copy this and use this as my playing copy.

Last login: Thu Dec 21 04:21:17 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
82-32-42-19:~ milocoon$ cd /Users/milocoon/Desktop/dvd/
82-32-42-19:~/Desktop/dvd milocoon$  /opt/local/var/db/dports/software/cdrtools/2.01_2/opt/local/bin/growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -use-the-force-luke=break:1913760  -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/rdisk2=game.iso
Executing 'builtin_dd if=game.iso of=/dev/rdisk2 obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/rdisk2: splitting layers at 1848848 blocks
/dev/rdisk2: "Current Write Speed" is 2.5x1352KBps.
   5636096/7572881408 ( 0.1%) @1.2x, remaining 67:07 RBU 100.3% UBU   2.0%
  13598720/7572881408 ( 0.2%) @1.7x, remaining 55:35 RBU 100.0% UBU   4.1%
  25329664/7572881408 ( 0.3%) @2.5x, remaining 49:39 RBU 100.0% UBU  63.3%
  36175872/7572881408 ( 0.5%) @2.4x, remaining 45:08 RBU 100.0% UBU  63.3%
 
Sometime during the burn  the speed will drop to ZERO for a few entries as I think this is where the layer break is applied and at the end it mentions about Disk flushing, its all normal BTW.

3233873920/7572881408 (42.7%) @2.4x, remaining 22:02 RBU 100.0% UBU  57.1%
3239575552/7572881408 (42.8%) @1.2x, remaining 22:04 RBU 100.0% UBU   4.1%
3239575552/7572881408 (42.8%) @0.0x, remaining 22:08 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0%
3239575552/7572881408 (42.8%) @0.0x, remaining 22:12 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0%
3249340416/7572881408 (42.9%) @2.1x, remaining 22:10 RBU 100.0% UBU   6.1%
3260547072/7572881408 (43.1%) @2.4x, remaining 22:06 RBU 100.0% UBU  53.1%
3271884800/7572881408 (43.2%) @2.5x, remaining 22:02 RBU 100.0% UBU  53.1%

All XBOX 360 Discs have the Layer Break at 1913760, the .DVD file thats needed in Windows is only a text file containg the name of the game and the layer break details.

7545094144/7572881408 (99.6%) @2.4x, remaining 0:08 RBU  82.8% UBU  53.1%
7556071424/7572881408 (99.8%) @2.4x, remaining 0:05 RBU  50.1% UBU  55.1%
7566753792/7572881408 (99.9%) @2.3x, remaining 0:01 RBU  18.3% UBU  57.1%
builtin_dd: 3697696*2KB out @ average 2.3x1352KBps
/dev/rdisk2: flushing cache
/dev/rdisk2: closing track
/dev/rdisk2: closing disc
82-32-42-19:~/Desktop/dvd milocoon$


Anyone who got this far will hopefully be very pleased with themselves as its a piece of cake now to burn XBOX games on a mac.  

Last edited by milocoon at 2006-12-21 05:40:28 GMT