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XBLA Games from CDR/DVDR Posted by XanTium | September 20 00:34 EST

From 360gamesaves.com: We've made a little discovery here that may prove useful to 360 users without an expensive harddrive for their console. Xbox Live Arcade Titles will execute when placed onto CDR/DVDR disks. XBLA on HDD reside in this format on Partition3 of HardDrive. /Content/0000000000000000/*TitleID*/000D0000/*XBLA Game* Burning this directory structure to any writable disk and placed in a console will populate the XBLA Menu with the titles on the disk. Of course, they will still run in TRIAL mode unless said console has purchased this content. However, we felt this was still useful for people with Memory Units that can only hold one title at a time or even people without any storage options at all. Demos, Videos, Profiles, and Saves were also tested in this fashion but were not recognized by the system unfortunately. USB Drives and Memory Sticks also tested and not working for either XBLA or the latter. News-Source: 360gamesaves.com To browser the HD with a Windows PC you'll need Xplorer360(info). To connect the Xbox360 HD with your PC you have lots of choices these days: * You can open the HD-case (void warranty!) and connect the drive to your PC via an sata port (and if your PC has no SATA you can buy a standard SATA-to-USB converter). * If you don't wanna open your Xbox360 HD-case you can buy 3rd party accessoires like: - via SATA port: Xecuter Connectivity Kit, Xeno Connectivity Kit, 360toSATA Connectivity Kit, MiniSpy SATA - via USB port: Xecuter X360 USB, Datel XSATA, MiniSpy USB, XCM 360 SATA

[leorimolo]

thats prety cool! Could they post a how to.

[DaShiZNiT]

WOW I cant believe noone has tried this before now....

cleary this is VERY interesting

[xboxexpert]

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[edwinmcdunlap]

Neato.

This would also be useful in case your hard drive gets filled with other stuff

[Heet]

A how to?  







TUTORIAL.


You burn the directory to dvd or cd.

[Pikkon]

QUOTE(Heet @ Sep 19 2006, 11:37 PM)

A how to?







TUTORIAL.


You burn the directory to dvd or cd.

 

 

Im pretty sure you need to make a image of the directory then burn it to a cdr or a dvdr.

[evilkeo]

ooh, fancy!

[lord^infamous]

Gangsta!  who woulda thought it'd be that easy

[jizmo]

It would've been useful if the demos or videos would've run. Demos are the ones that take most of your HDD space and would've fit nicely on cheap DVD+R discs.

And the ability to play WMV-HD videos off the burnt DVD would've make x360 a kick-ass standalone HD player. I still hope PS3 will support media playing and streaming more freely than x360 so that MS would have to unlock the media restrictions in Xbox as well.

[sinister slipknot]

I like how they say its useful to people without hard drives, though they say you need to get it off the hard drive... so you need to get the hard drive to do this with, then not needing to put it on a CDR.

[Lunar Aura]

I hope some soul in another dimension could somehow oh I don't know place an eyeso that has every XBLA game to date and maybe burnable to DVD-R.

Some angel in the sky maybe? From the heavens? Wink wink.

[reidage]

So is it possible to copy a full version game from one x360 to another x360?

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE(lord^infamous @ Sep 20 2006, 06:14 AM)

Gangsta!  who woulda thought it'd be that easy

The default.xex within the XBLA PIRS archive are simply media flagged to run from a "Live-signed package".  No mention of what physical media the package has to reside on.  

QUOTE(jizmo @ Sep 20 2006, 06:33 AM)

It would've been useful if the demos or videos would've run. Demos are the ones that take most of your HDD space and would've fit nicely on cheap DVD+R discs.

Agreed.  That's what was hoped for, but in our tests we couldn't make it fly.

QUOTE(sinister slipknot @ Sep 20 2006, 06:36 AM)

I like how they say its useful to people without hard drives, though they say you need to get it off the hard drive... so you need to get the hard drive to do this with, then not needing to put it on a CDR.

Or find a friend with one!.  Given that these are simply trial versions (and free!) alternative distribution may be possible.     -- \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ --

QUOTE(Lunar Aura @ Sep 20 2006, 06:42 AM)

I hope some soul in another dimension could somehow oh I don't know place an eyeso that has every XBLA game to date and maybe burnable to DVD-R.

Xbox Live Arcade Unplugged lite?    

QUOTE(reidage @ Sep 20 2006, 08:16 AM)

So is it possible to copy a full version game from one x360 to another x360?

Nope.
My working theory regarding XBLA licensing goes likes this...  The trail PIRS archives of XBLA games download uniformly (everyone gets an identical file - there's no personalization).  When you 'purchase', a full license (a short file) is downloaded from XBL and stored in a 'license repository' (aka. 'key vault') stored in the FW on your console (maybe [1]) (and mirrored on the XBL servers).   Six bytes in the header of the XBLA PIRS archive are modified to hold the index (hash) of the newly stored license.

When the XBLA game is executed, it uses the index/hash in the archive header to swiftly consult the console's key vault, and if the license is valid for the game, plays the full version, else, and if online, it consults the XBL server held key vault related to your profile, else trail only.

So you can move 'purchased' XBLA PIRS archives between consoles, but because the 2nd console's key vault will not contain license at the given index/hash location, it'll only play as trail (assuming different profile and/or offline!)

[1]  I'm still unsure if a physical key vault is actually maintained/necessary.  The bytes updated in the purchased XBLA PIRS archive's header may be being used in concert with the unique console serial number, and via some algorithm achieve a logical binding, rather than maintain a physical license vault.  This theory is easy enough to check, but would involve unsoldering and dumping the consoles FW before and after an XBLA purchase to check for changes, which is beyond my abilities.  

[pimpmaul69]

i tried many times and failed.. maybe a better explanation