Well there is a lesson to be learned here and also to keep trying.......i have managed to back up my farcry.....and the reason i have so many coasters is due to certain parts of guides NOT specifying how important certain operations are, they can make a burn successfull or unsuccessful.....when i was using iso buster to rip the disc i was exploding the menu right down to where it says "track" instead of right clicking on the item that says "cd"....if you explode the menu so you can see the track it will still let you burn the disc but it wont work, in all fairness the guide does say "click the item called cd at top" it doesnt however mention how imperitive it is to do this, i now have my game backed up and working.
Just out of interest, if i wanted to back up the backup, could i do a disc to disc copy or would i have to use the image again ?? i might consider having two copies of it as i drop a blank disc the other day and it split into two halves !!!!....maybe it was a one off but i dont fancy having to open up the box to get another backup.