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[ereet1]

yeh drop the speed. i found at 4X i'd get a constant 4x burn across the board and it was happy. when i did max or whatever it would shift up and down and take longer than 4x to burn and it would be 2x 6x 4x 2x all over the place, you can see on the disc how non uniform the burn is. I'm guessing its doing some sort of read-after-write verification and if the # of soft errors is high it drops down slower, then retrains (modem jargon) after a number of good tracks and goes back up. This is just bad mojo imo.

even though the verbatim is 6X rated i can never get a solid burn rate. solid being started at a 4x or so then stepping up once to 6X then staying there for the whole burn. I think that is the strategy on one of my burners.

my lite-on SOHW-1693S only burns at 4X with the same media and most recent firmware. I'm not sure if thats the limit or what. I just set it at MAX and it ran the whole disc at 4x

you notice the xbox boot faster in tower stand versus sitting on its side?

[DarkProphecy]

Yes all my images and SSs come up green in SS merger.

Would using ImgBurn/DVDdecrypter or some other different image burning program as opposed to cloneCD make any difference? Or is cloneCD the only one the .dvd file correctly?

[DarkProphecy]

WOOT! got it working.

Tried using ImgBurn to burn my backup instead of CloneCD. Set the layer break in the settings and just burned the wxripper iso that I had patched with the SS with SS merger v1.6. Worked like a charm. Also tried burning at 4x instead of 2.4x

I urge anyone else having unrecognized disc errors to try using ImgBurn or some other software to burn their backups, and also try burning at higher speeds (4x for me). This solved my problem and the games work perfectly now.

[ereet1]

is imgburn free? fwiw what is the break  you are using in that software.

[DarkProphecy]

Theres 2 guides in the faq section of the 360 backup forum. They tell you everything you need to know, including the layer break setting, which is the same for every 360 game in order to get the SS in the right place. I'm pretty sure its the same number that gets generated in the .dvd file when you patch with your SS.

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=516786
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=514437

Also i forgot to mention that the bottom of the disc looks different now. When I burned with cloneCD, the entire disc looked filled, but with ImgBurn there is a ring around both the inner and outer edge of the disc that is a different color than the rest (blank?). Maybe CloneCD wasn't reading the layerbreak in my .dvd file correctly?

[Xcitedguy]

QUOTE(DarkProphecy @ Jun 28 2006, 03:51 PM)

Theres 2 guides in the faq section of the 360 backup forum. They tell you everything you need to know, including the layer break setting, which is the same for every 360 game in order to get the SS in the right place. I'm pretty sure its the same number that gets generated in the .dvd file when you patch with your SS.

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=516786
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=514437

Also i forgot to mention that the bottom of the disc looks different now. When I burned with cloneCD, the entire disc looked filled, but with ImgBurn there is a ring around both the inner and outer edge of the disc that is a different color than the rest (blank?). Maybe CloneCD wasn't reading the layerbreak in my .dvd file correctly?

what version of clonecd were you using? sounds like your clonecd had some problems writing dual layer discs. The best version to use is either 5.2.8.1 or the newest one, they both are confirmed to work correctly.

[DarkProphecy]

Was using v5.2.9.1, newest version.