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Sylvester182

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« on: December 13, 2007, 10:08:00 PM »

I recently acquired a 360 with no video, except  for dotted lines traveling up the screen.  To fix this I performed lawdawgs method of xclamp replacement.  About 7 hours of gameplay later it started artifacting. If you aren't familiar with artifacting here's a >link<
After that failed I performed the 12 cent fix :>link<
Only I didn't use hot glue I slid the stacks in before I put in the mobo screws.  I have added cooling mods since and it has held up for 1 weeks so far.  I've played music on it constantly and "played games" on it for about 4 hours and it's running fine.  I will post back if it fails. Hopefully this will help anyone with this problem.

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Sylvester182

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 11:19:00 AM »

And down she goes.......Again
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 10:05:00 PM »

try overheating the system and tightening the bolts down again.
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Sylvester182

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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2007, 10:21:00 PM »

From what i've read today it could be the encoder chip that sits behind the gpu. In any case I scaled down the 12 cent fix I had applied to 8, reapplied the thermal paste and didn't tighten the gpu heatsink don as much as
I had it originally.  I've been playing music on it and playing GOW for about 6 hours and it's still running. I imagine it will fail again soon enough.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 10:23:00 AM »

Yeah man i have the same problem, i was able to fix it for about a week with the 8 cent fix, then i fixed it with the 12 cent fix, then i did somethin dumb like pack it in a suitcase, and when i got to my destination i didn work. so now im gettin ready to try the xclamp.
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Sylvester182

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 01:35:00 AM »

It's working fine, for the longest stretch I've seen so far.  Only thing is this time I pressed down on the encoder chip w/ the plastic handle of a precision screwdriver and hit it with a hair dryer for about 2 minutes.  I'm not a fan of the overheating/torching of a 360 but this seems to have worked (for now). Although I believe it will die again soon  it has played for 10 total hrs do far.  I now fully understand the hatred for the engineering of this console.  This is the 4th time I have "repaired" this unit in 2 weeks.  I'm glad this was given to me and not paying $400 for something would most likely become a part time door stop.

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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2007, 11:34:00 AM »

Just a small update:
It's still working fine......amazing.
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2007, 06:06:00 PM »

Good luck with it. Overheating on its own never lasts very long, but with the 12 cent fix, you might have a chance. The problem with ALL of the fixes is that they are focused around bending the motherboard. I know they say that they just make the motherboard perfectly flat, but they are actually just creating the opposite effect of the x-clamps. The x-clamps along with the intense heat produced by the 360 break the solder joints around the outside of the GPU chip. All of the 360 fixes focus on bending the motherboard in the opposite direction  in order to push the solder joints back together. This works fine, until the fix itself breaks the solder connections toward the center of the chip due to the stress that it puts on the motherboard, and then you're screwed. This isn't just limited to the 12-cent fix, RBJtech's and Lawdawg's methods work the same way. Sometimes you get lucky and the solder joints towards the center of the GPU don't break, in which case you have a lasting fix. Your best shot at having this result, if you did an x-clamp replacement fix, is to not tighten the bolts to much, but just enough to fix it. If you did the 12-cent fix, then I would suggest that you don't tighten the motherboard screws too much. In the end, the only way to guarantee a lasting fix is to have the GPU professionally reballed. Unfortunately, this is expensive and involves paying a lot to ship your 360 to someone that you don't know, but like I said, that's the only way to ensure that your 360 won't break again.








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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2007, 06:27:00 PM »

I have been following this forum because I am having the same problem.  I hear the audio and it sounds like it is loading fine, but there is no video.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)  I opened my machine beacasue it has already been void of its warrenty due to some previous modding.  I am planning to do the 12 cent fix in which I wrap 3 cents together with electrical tape for each of the 4 memory chips.  Does this really work?  Is this how others have done it?  I guess my main concern would be the electrical tape melting.  I plan on using heat sink epoxy in order to attach the pennies.  Let me know if any of you have further suggestions.  Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 04:13:00 PM »

Bandit5317 is absolutely right, reballing is the only way to ensure a permanent fix. Well, that and x-clamp replacement and cooling, lots of cooling. I'm having the bad color problem myself and I've looked around for professional reballing services. I'm thinking about www.superiorreball.com, and it's just $75 plus shipping.
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