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QUOTE(DoTsTeR @ Nov 14 2006, 04:04 PM)

too much work and ugly.. but tons of great information on how the project was done..

Exactly, great work on this being a project mod, but not worth the time nor cash saving involved, but it does give one some sense of accomplishment!  Good Work!

[troyBORG]

QUOTE(BecomethemonsteR @ Nov 14 2006, 05:29 PM)

There is a cable you can buy from Monster Cable(maybe through other companies as well) and it has a VGA plug on one end and a DVI plug on the other.  It would be perfect.

Where?

My tv is suppost to be 1280x720 native LCD.  But when I run in 720p with the 360 is acts werid.
So my 360 has to run in 1080i on my 720p tv


I wanna get a DVI cable so my setup can be:

360 = DVI
Xbox = Component
Wii = S-video

This post has been edited by troyBORG: Nov 15 2006, 04:51 AM

[kowrip]

QUOTE(BecomethemonsteR @ Nov 15 2006, 12:29 AM)

There is a cable you can buy from Monster Cable(maybe through other companies as well) and it has a VGA plug on one end and a DVI plug on the other.  It would be perfect.

That has to be for going the OPPOSITE way (DVI signal ouput to VGA input).  It can't be VGA output to DVI input because the VGA signal is only analog.  It works the other way because DVI output ports contain both the digital and analog signal for use with standard VGA monitor.  That's why video cards with DVI outputs come with that cheap adapter for use with a standard VGA monitor.  This cable won't accomplish what you want.

[troyBORG]

But if they made a HDMI one then couldn't we get a converter that converts HDMI to DVI?  (I've seen these at wal-mart)

But since HDMI is video and sound
DVI is only video,  does the HDMI->DVI adapters usually have the RCA (red/white) cables?

[Niteman1969]

Nice project , but could have gone further
and given us an optical and co-axial digital output
as well as composite, svga and component all in one
breakout box, with a sdtv / hdtv / vga tri position switch.

That would be special.

Regards

Niteman1969

[Neoistheone2000]

QUOTE(GhostDog__ @ Nov 14 2006, 06:15 PM)

No way would I go through that to save a little a bit of money.  Way to much time, and energy.  You can get the official MS VGA cables on eBay for cheap, which is what I'm going to do.

same hear, well after i get my new HDTV in about 2 weeks

QUOTE(Niteman1969 @ Nov 15 2006, 03:12 AM)

Nice project , but could have gone further
and given us an optical and co-axial digital output
as well as composite, svga and component all in one
breakout box, with a sdtv / hdtv / vga tri position switch.

That would be special.

Regards

Niteman1969

hell why not a co-akal RF for verry old tvs when ya go to your grandparantes house

QUOTE(kowrip @ Nov 14 2006, 11:55 PM)

That has to be for going the OPPOSITE way (DVI signal ouput to VGA input).  It can't be VGA output to DVI input because the VGA signal is only analog.  It works the other way because DVI output ports contain both the digital and analog signal for use with standard VGA monitor.  That's why video cards with DVI outputs come with that cheap adapter for use with a standard VGA monitor.  This cable won't accomplish what you want.

dont forget that there is DVI-D (digital) (the one your thinking of) and DVI-I witch is a hybrid of digital and analog

thre are 4 little pins added for DVI-I for RGB

[sandmanza]

QUOTE(pRtkL xLr8r @ Nov 15 2006, 03:22 AM)

I'm getting a new HDTV with 1080p and VGA-in capability, and am wondering if anyone knows about or has seen first-hand the picture quality difference in using the VGA X360 cable over the component one.  I mean if it's no different, and it's just for connecting to a PC monitor, I'm not going to bother buying/modding one.

The general ladder of quality goes like this (from best to worst) HDMI --- VGA ---- Component ----- S-Video ---- Composite.

I would use VGA over Component

[slipstream]

QUOTE(Niteman1969 @ Nov 15 2006, 08:12 AM)

Nice project , but could have gone further
and given us an optical and co-axial digital output
as well as composite, svga and component all in one
breakout box, with a sdtv / hdtv / vga tri position switch.

That would be special.

Regards

Niteman1969

didnt XS have a posting on a product like that that plugged into the back? it had cooling fans too!

[memturbo]

Pretty nice but my local gamestop has the vga cable used for $6.00

[StepsAscend]

Would this work?

http://www.myhomethe...m/vgacable.html

It's just a way to direct the component outs of the 360 to a vga plug.  There is no H/V sync though.  Is that absolutly neccesary for connecting to a monitor?  Anyone try this?

I have some parts lying around I can use for this so I may try it.  Shouldn't take me but 10 minutes.

[Casper1786]

QUOTE(StepsAscend @ Nov 15 2006, 12:19 PM)

Would this work?

http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/vgacable.html

It's just a way to direct the component outs of the 360 to a vga plug.  There is no H/V sync though.  Is that absolutly neccesary for connecting to a monitor?  Anyone try this?

I have some parts lying around I can use for this so I may try it.  Shouldn't take me but 10 minutes.

Yes actually I was just gonna post that as a cost saver option that doesn't require you to fuck over your current cable. In Fact I'm using one of these homemade cables with 50ft of Cat5e STP cable for my projector, cost me $12 in parts in a local store, no one in town had a 3 plug Component-VGA cable in town, so i was trying for dvi connections, when i started lookin at 50Ft of cable my costs started around $200 for all i was needing, brought it down to a measly $12 not bad eh. anyway works great for 720p and 1080i on my projector, just fantastic

also due note what your connecting to supports component through the VGA Port I have an Optoma EP709 witch does

This post has been edited by Casper1786: Nov 15 2006, 11:34 PM

[StepsAscend]

I don't know if my monitor supports component over vga.  It probably doesn't.  The 360 doesn't convert component to RGB for traditional vga i guess.  I wasn't thinking about that the color channels over vga are not the same as component video.

This post has been edited by StepsAscend: Nov 15 2006, 11:46 PM

[StepsAscend]

So wait, on the 360 connector there are 3 pins that handle the HD video.  in most diagrams they are labels red green and blue.  but Component uses Y, Pr, and Pb.  Does that mean the 360 changes what these pins are outputing based on the cable connected? How does it know whether to use RGB or Y-Pr-Pb?

[KolosoK]

3rd party cables sell for under $10 on ebay, including shipping. I think I bought mine for $0.99 + $5.99 shipping.

[qifanxi]

QUOTE(StepsAscend @ Nov 15 2006, 11:36 PM)

So wait, on the 360 connector there are 3 pins that handle the HD video.  in most diagrams they are labels red green and blue.  but Component uses Y, Pr, and Pb.  Does that mean the 360 changes what these pins are outputing based on the cable connected? How does it know whether to use RGB or Y-Pr-Pb?

If you look at the female end of your Xbox 360 A/V adapter, you'll notice that there are over 20-something connector leads. The Xbox 360 uses separate pins to provide outputs for VGA, component and composite video outputs and analogue and digital video outputs. The Xbox 360 does not provide both VGA and component video output through the same pins.

It's a bit confusing that VGA output channels include red, green and blue, and component cables just happen to be colour-coded red, green and blue. Remember that VGA also requires H-sync and V-sync signals, so 3 RCA cables will never work for VGA output (that's why there are 15 pins in the male end of a VGA connector instead of just 6)